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daveozric
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daveozric posted this 04 July 2019
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Hello, I mostly use Joomla and wonder if Themler and Nicepage can be like the other top Joomla developer's multi-site creation systems. The top template designers have a page builder for their clients to use along with the theme maker. They share the same libraries so it's only loading one set of BS & CSS for both.

This would be ideal for what you have now. Why don't you ask the developers if that is the plan and explain that to us? It would make us all so much more confident you are not abandoning us like Artisteer.

I want separate products.

Hello, I mostly use Joomla and wonder if Themler and Nicepage can be like the other top Joomla developer's multi-site creation systems. The top template designers have a page builder for their clients to use along with the theme maker. They share the same libraries so it's only loading one set of BS & CSS for both. This would be ideal for what you have now. Why don't you ask the developers if that is the plan and explain that to us? It would make us all so much more confident you are not abandoning us like Artisteer. I want separate products.

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Support Team
Support Team posted this 05 July 2019

Hi Dave,

Themler and Nicepage use different frameworks and libraries. But Nicepage plugin for Joomla is just a content builder. You can use any theme with Nicepage pages, including Themler theme. And you can use articles created with Themler side-by-side with Nicepage pages. Both of these systems work independently. But they can be used side-by-side.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

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Sincerely,
Olivia
Nicepage Support Team

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Hi Dave, Themler and Nicepage use different frameworks and libraries. But Nicepage plugin for Joomla is just a content builder. You can use any theme with Nicepage pages, including Themler theme. And you can use articles created with Themler side-by-side with Nicepage pages. Both of these systems work independently. But they can be used side-by-side. Please let us know if you have any further questions. ................................................... Sincerely, Olivia Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 05 July 2019

Tested Nicepage + Themler at the end of 2018. Nicepage work incorrect, different results between Nicepage editor and real website. Have tried different Themler and Nicepage layouts, options etc... And yes, two frameworks will give huge code and very low Google page rank.

Tested Nicepage + Themler at the end of 2018. Nicepage work incorrect, different results between Nicepage editor and real website. Have tried different Themler and Nicepage layouts, options etc... And yes, two frameworks will give huge code and very low Google page rank.
daveozric
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daveozric posted this 05 July 2019

Hi Dave,

Themler and Nicepage use different frameworks and libraries. But Nicepage plugin for Joomla is just a content builder. You can use any theme with Nicepage pages, including Themler theme. And you can use articles created with Themler side-by-side with Nicepage pages. Both of these systems work independently. But they can be used side-by-side.

Please let us know if you have any further questions.

I do. I am asking for you to unify these as a common system for us to use together but keep them separate products. Many people do not want to switch to Nicepage but may want to add it. Why not make both projects intertwined so we can use both. Focus on SEO for us not just layouts. That is only part of the game.

> Hi Dave, > > Themler and Nicepage use different frameworks and libraries. But Nicepage plugin for Joomla is just a content builder. You can use any theme with Nicepage pages, including Themler theme. And you can use articles created with Themler side-by-side with Nicepage pages. Both of these systems work independently. But they can be used side-by-side. > > Please let us know if you have any further questions. > I do. I am asking for you to unify these as a common system for us to use together but keep them separate products. Many people do not want to switch to Nicepage but may want to add it. Why not make both projects intertwined so we can use both. Focus on SEO for us not just layouts. That is only part of the game.
Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 05 July 2019

IMHO SP Page Builder will work more smoothly with Themler as it's uses Bootstrap. So you can load only once Bootstrap files for Themler and SP Page Builder.

But with Nicepage you need to load Themler Bootstrap + Nicepage own framework.

Nicepage will be good only if you need canvas with absolute position everywhere... Nicepage called this as Web 3.0. In other cases there is no benifits to use Themler and Nicepage together...

Just IMHO.

Maybe Nicepage team can show good examples of usage Nicepage + Themler?

IMHO SP Page Builder will work more smoothly with Themler as it's uses Bootstrap. So you can load only once Bootstrap files for Themler and SP Page Builder. But with Nicepage you need to load Themler Bootstrap + Nicepage own framework. Nicepage will be good only if you need canvas with absolute position everywhere... Nicepage called this as Web 3.0. In other cases there is no benifits to use Themler and Nicepage together... Just IMHO. Maybe Nicepage team can show good examples of usage Nicepage + Themler?
daveozric
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daveozric posted this 05 July 2019

Then that is new info to me. I am not a developer and do not know about such things. I know Bootstrap is Joomla default so I like this for now.

I guess it cannot be a common product so that means it's even more important to develop both products.

Like I said if I get burned again it will not a good thing. I just spend 18 months rebuilding all the Artisteer templates into Themler themes. I am not going to do that again with another of their products. They need to stop playing games with us and keep their promise that they switched to Themler to make a future compatible product they can continue to develop. This was their whole reason to switch to Themler from Artisteer. We all fell for it. Now back this up with action. Fool me once.......!

Then that is new info to me. I am not a developer and do not know about such things. I know Bootstrap is Joomla default so I like this for now. I guess it cannot be a common product so that means it's even more important to develop both products. Like I said if I get burned again it will not a good thing. I just spend 18 months rebuilding all the Artisteer templates into Themler themes. I am not going to do that again with another of their products. **They need to stop playing games with us and keep their promise that they switched to Themler to make a future compatible product they can continue to develop.** This was their whole reason to switch to Themler from Artisteer. We all fell for it. Now back this up with action. Fool me once.......!
ebay8
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ebay8 posted this 07 November 2019

But the problem with any mention of Themler is that is seems to have been abandoned over a year ago. :-(

But the problem with any mention of Themler is that is seems to have been abandoned over a year ago. :-(
Support Team
Support Team posted this 08 November 2019

Hi,

Indeed, we do not pay much attention to Themler now, but we solve the major issues and the application keeps on working.

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Hella
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Hi, Indeed, we do not pay much attention to Themler now, but we solve the major issues and the application keeps on working. ................................................... Sincerely, Hella Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
Werbeagentur Schulz-Design e. K.
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Werbeagentur Schulz-Design e. K. posted this 24 December 2019

Then we hope that Themler will be developed again soon. I tested Nicepage and it is not usable for my projects. If Themler is hired, I switch to another company.

Merry Christmas

Thorsten

Then we hope that Themler will be developed again soon. I tested Nicepage and it is not usable for my projects. If Themler is hired, I switch to another company. Merry Christmas Thorsten
daveozric
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daveozric posted this 25 December 2019

I too am not looking for a new page builder. I want a dedicated template builder and Themler is the best for features. It just needs to be kept up to date with Bootstrap, Google Fonts, Jquery, etc.

I too am not looking for a new page builder. I want a dedicated template builder and Themler is the best for features. It just needs to be kept up to date with Bootstrap, Google Fonts, Jquery, etc.
Ivo Beran
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Ivo Beran posted this 02 July 2020

Hello Daveozric, what was the conclusion? How is it going with you? Because I cannot edit older Themler Teplates under Joomla. I have no time to manually modify PHP etc. Thamks! :-)

Hello Daveozric, what was the conclusion? How is it going with you? Because I cannot edit older Themler Teplates under Joomla. I have no time to manually modify PHP etc. Thamks! :-)
Wartburg-Entertainment
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Wartburg-Entertainment posted this 03 July 2020

Hi,
Hello, I recently saw a post on Youtube about Joomla 4. I think it was joomladay 2019. There today a perennial woman reports and describes the state of affairs. She also reported that Joomla 4 contains a pagebuilder. In Beta 1 I didn't see anything about it, because I only tested briefly. I haven't tested Beta 2 yet.

The Video: https://youtu.be/dVT5EpbyQFY

Greetings

Hi, Hello, I recently saw a post on Youtube about Joomla 4. I think it was joomladay 2019. There today a perennial woman reports and describes the state of affairs. She also reported that Joomla 4 contains a pagebuilder. In Beta 1 I didn't see anything about it, because I only tested briefly. I haven't tested Beta 2 yet. The Video: https://youtu.be/dVT5EpbyQFY Greetings
daveozric
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daveozric posted this 03 July 2020

Hello Daveozric, what was the conclusion? How is it going with you? Because I cannot edit older Themler Teplates under Joomla. I have no time to manually modify PHP etc. Thamks! :-)

I ended up with SP Page Builder Pro. It has it's quirks and some issues but it's working well enough. If only Themler would keep up with simple updates that would be fine.

> Hello Daveozric, what was the conclusion? How is it going with you? Because I cannot edit older Themler Teplates under Joomla. I have no time to manually modify PHP etc. Thamks! :-) I ended up with SP Page Builder Pro. It has it's quirks and some issues but it's working well enough. If only Themler would keep up with simple updates that would be fine.
ebay8
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ebay8 posted this 29 July 2020

I ended up with SP Page Builder Pro. It has it's quirks and some issues but it's working well enough. If only Themler would keep up with simple updates that would be fine.

Agree totally. So sad that this company keeps ditching their software and starting from scratch which they have done twice already. It really reduces my trust in moving to their latest software.

> I ended up with SP Page Builder Pro. It has it's quirks and some issues but it's working well enough. If only Themler would keep up with simple updates that would be fine. Agree totally. So sad that this company keeps ditching their software and starting from scratch which they have done twice already. It really reduces my trust in moving to their latest software.
daveozric
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daveozric posted this 29 July 2020

Agree totally. So sad that this company keeps ditching their software and starting from scratch which they have done twice already. It really reduces my trust in moving to their latest software.

This has strong implications for their motives.

> Agree totally. So sad that this company keeps ditching their software and starting from scratch which they have done twice already. It really reduces my trust in moving to their latest software. This has strong implications for their motives.
Werbeagentur Schulz-Design e. K.
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Werbeagentur Schulz-Design e. K. posted this 20 September 2020

Hello everybody,

I repeat myself and still hope that Themer will evolve. I also came from Artisteer and have now familiarized myself with Themler.
If the development only goes in the direction of Nicepage, I'll be out and look for another software to build individual templates.

As I said before, Nicepage is not suitable for our purposes.

I also don't understand the developer's attitude that they want to scare off hundreds of users.

Best regards
Thorsten
Werbeagentur Schulz-Design

Hello everybody, I repeat myself and still hope that Themer will evolve. I also came from Artisteer and have now familiarized myself with Themler. If the development only goes in the direction of Nicepage, I'll be out and look for another software to build individual templates. As I said before, Nicepage is not suitable for our purposes. I also don't understand the developer's attitude that they want to scare off hundreds of users. Best regards Thorsten [Werbeagentur Schulz-Design][1] [1]: https://www.schulzdesign.info/ "Werbeagentur Schulz-Design"
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