Saving is still automatic. When will you please stop this?

tony62
32 Posts
tony62 posted this 25 May 2019
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Hi folks,
Seriously it is exceedingly annoying that Nice Page auto saves during the development process and especially on
shutdown of Nicepage.
Normal development offers small changes to any project whether it be a web page or software. Having autosave
without the developer choice of enabling or disabling is simply bad news.
Many changes I make during a development cycle are not required but simply done to see the change and assess its
viability. However Nicepage autosave does not allow me to do these. Even closing Nicepage still saves the changes.
Please please please allow us to disable this autosave it wastes so much of my time it is crazy. Even showing clients
the page is frustrating when they say "no I prefer it before the last change, please revert.".

Hi folks, Seriously it is exceedingly annoying that Nice Page auto saves during the development process and especially on shutdown of Nicepage. Normal development offers small changes to any project whether it be a web page or software. Having autosave without the developer choice of enabling or disabling is simply bad news. Many changes I make during a development cycle are not required but simply done to see the change and assess its viability. However Nicepage autosave does not allow me to do these. Even closing Nicepage still saves the changes. Please please please allow us to disable this autosave it wastes so much of my time it is crazy. Even showing clients the page is frustrating when they say "no I prefer it before the last change, please revert.".

Last edited 25 May 2019 by tony62

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grafkomjanow
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grafkomjanow posted this 25 May 2019

It has already been described many times but Nicepage probably has more important things to do and not some stupid autosave. :(

It has already been described many times but Nicepage probably has more important things to do and not some stupid autosave. :(
tony62
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tony62 posted this 26 May 2019

Idiot.

Idiot.
ToKo
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ToKo posted this 26 May 2019

Yes, please stop the Autosaving!!!!!!!

Yes, please stop the Autosaving!!!!!!!
Support Team
Support Team posted this 28 May 2019

Hi,

We're still discussing the possibility to disable autosave as the implementation of this feature causes some difficulties in the logic of Nicepage work (at what moment the autosave should be initiated in order not to lose changes, when the "ask to save" dialog is more suitable, etc.).

If you're interested in this feay=ture please vote for this topic.

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Olivia
Nicepage Support Team

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Hi, We're still discussing the possibility to disable autosave as the implementation of this feature causes some difficulties in the logic of Nicepage work (at what moment the autosave should be initiated in order not to lose changes, when the "ask to save" dialog is more suitable, etc.). If you're interested in this feay=ture please vote for this topic. ................................................... Sincerely, Olivia Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
tony62
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tony62 posted this 28 May 2019

Hello,
Sorry to say that is not a good answer. However here is my suggestion for a resoulution.

  1. In the settings dialog add a single checkbox for "Disable Autosave". Default is unchecked.
  2. Save the check box on exit from the dialog.
  3. Load the "Disable Autosave" on program start.
  4. When Nicepage is to save automatically, test the variable on entry to the function/procedure to save for checked.
  5. If is is checked then simply exit from the Autosave function/procedure.
    Done.
    No issues anywhere.
    Simple.

This method should be implementable in an hour or so with testing.
Only a few lines of code to add/change.

TIA :)

Hello, Sorry to say that is not a good answer. However here is my suggestion for a resoulution. 1. In the settings dialog add a single checkbox for "Disable Autosave". Default is unchecked. 2. Save the check box on exit from the dialog. 3. Load the "Disable Autosave" on program start. 4. When Nicepage is to save automatically, test the variable on entry to the function/procedure to save for checked. 5. If is is checked then simply exit from the Autosave function/procedure. Done. No issues anywhere. Simple. This method should be implementable in an hour or so with testing. Only a few lines of code to add/change. TIA :)
Support Team
Support Team posted this 29 May 2019

Hi Tony,

Thank you for your comments.
Unfortunately, it is not as easy as it seems. Application development is not as easy as it seems in general. Even the small change requires a lot of work (discussing, planning, implementation, a few layers of testing). We have not received a lot of complaints about autosave. Therefore this request does not have high priority in our backlog, unfortunately.

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Olivia
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Hi Tony, Thank you for your comments. Unfortunately, it is not as easy as it seems. Application development is not as easy as it seems in general. Even the small change requires a lot of work (discussing, planning, implementation, a few layers of testing). We have not received a lot of complaints about autosave. Therefore this request does not have high priority in our backlog, unfortunately. ................................................... Sincerely, Olivia Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
tony62
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tony62 posted this 29 May 2019

Unfortunately for Nicepage I can tell you I have been writing software for computers since 1987.
So I can tell you that you are simply not doing it right if the suggestion I gave you cannot be implemented.
If you can add a dialog to the code that asks whether the save should continue or not then
the code I suggested if only a little more difficult.
Heck, give me the code and I will do it for you for free.

Unfortunately for Nicepage I can tell you I have been writing software for computers since 1987. So I can tell you that you are simply not doing it right if the suggestion I gave you cannot be implemented. If you can add a dialog to the code that asks whether the save should continue or not then the code I suggested if only a little more difficult. Heck, give me the code and I will do it for you for free.

Last edited 29 May 2019 by tony62

Andy[taly]
30 Posts
Andy[taly] posted this 30 May 2019

@Tony62
Hi!
You said: "Even showing clients the page is frustrating when they say "no I prefer it before the last change, please revert."

Could your suggestion to stop autosave would give us the possibility to revert back on the versions?

Andy

@Tony62 Hi! You said: "Even showing clients the page is frustrating when they say "no I prefer it before the last change, please revert." Could your suggestion to stop autosave would give us the possibility to revert back on the versions? Andy
tony62
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tony62 posted this 30 May 2019

Hi Andy,
Disabling autosave is not the same as version control. Disabling autosave will allow you to make changes and save as you go at your choice not Nicepage. This means you can save or not then close and reopen the project at the last point you saved.
I have never before had any software that automatically saved whether I wanted it to or not.

FYI I currently zip my folder using 7zip before I open it. Then play with Nicepage. If I don't like the changes I unzip
the last zip file to let me start again. It is a pain in the butt but it works for me.

Hi Andy, Disabling autosave is not the same as version control. Disabling autosave will allow you to make changes and save as you go at your choice not Nicepage. This means you can save or not then close and reopen the project at the last point you saved. I have never before had any software that automatically saved whether I wanted it to or not. FYI I currently zip my folder using 7zip before I open it. Then play with Nicepage. If I don't like the changes I unzip the last zip file to let me start again. It is a pain in the butt but it works for me.
jpalmer2
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jpalmer2 posted this 31 May 2019

Tony,
I agree I would love for them to get rid of autosave. As a programer myself, since the early 80s I believe I figured out what the problem is. When they open a project, instead of writing to a temporary file or directory, they are most likely writing directly to the project file. This was a poor decision to make in the beginning of development but in order to change it they would have to restructure the whole file system. Perhaps this decision was made because they are developing for multiple operating systems and the cloud. I'm not defending them believe me I want them to get rid of auto save in the worst way.

Tony, I agree I would love for them to get rid of autosave. As a programer myself, since the early 80s I believe I figured out what the problem is. When they open a project, instead of writing to a temporary file or directory, they are most likely writing directly to the project file. This was a poor decision to make in the beginning of development but in order to change it they would have to restructure the whole file system. Perhaps this decision was made because they are developing for multiple operating systems and the cloud. I'm not defending them believe me I want them to get rid of auto save in the worst way.

Last edited 31 May 2019 by jpalmer2

tony62
32 Posts
tony62 posted this 31 May 2019

Hi jpalmer2.
Thank you for the comments but I am sure it is a simple 1/2hour fix, if only they would
think clearly. The amount of stress this one bad choice makes is crazy. I actually like their
platform and think it could be best of breed. However the lack of flexibility shown to their
users is bad news.
I have been writing cross platform software for 15 years for linux, windows, apple, android and os/2.
You cannot seriously tell me the issue is a file based issue, it is simply a logic flow. Nothing else
need change.
Or simply disable to autosave timer. Real easy fix. That means we can use the Save Icon only when
we want to save or not.

Hey guys turn off the autosave timer...

Hi jpalmer2. Thank you for the comments but I am sure it is a simple 1/2hour fix, if only they would think clearly. The amount of stress this one bad choice makes is crazy. I actually like their platform and think it could be best of breed. However the lack of flexibility shown to their users is bad news. I have been writing cross platform software for 15 years for linux, windows, apple, android and os/2. You cannot seriously tell me the issue is a file based issue, it is simply a logic flow. Nothing else need change. Or simply disable to autosave timer. Real easy fix. That means we can use the Save Icon only when we want to save or not. Hey guys turn off the autosave timer...
Support Team
Support Team posted this 17 June 2019

Tony,

We started working on this feature and expect to release it in a few weeks.

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Chris
Nicepage Support Team

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Tony, We started working on this feature and expect to release it in a few weeks. ................................................... Sincerely, Chris Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
jpalmer2
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jpalmer2 posted this 15 July 2019

When is this going to be completed. What is the status?

When is this going to be completed. What is the status?

Last edited 15 July 2019 by jpalmer2

Support Team
Support Team posted this 16 July 2019

Hi,

This feature is under the development right now. Please follow the news.

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Sincerely,
Hella
Nicepage Support Team

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Hi, This feature is under the development right now. Please follow the news. ................................................... Sincerely, Hella Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
jpalmer2
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jpalmer2 posted this 27 July 2019

I see you now have an option to turn off auto save in the latest update! THanks. For these who are interested in turning it off go to your account settings there is a drop down box to disable auto save.
Thanks again Nicepage.

I see you now have an option to turn off auto save in the latest update! THanks. For these who are interested in turning it off go to your account settings there is a drop down box to disable auto save. Thanks again Nicepage.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 29 July 2019

Hi,

You are welcome. Follow the news а the next updates!

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Sincerely,
Hella
Nicepage Support Team

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Hi, You are welcome. Follow the news а the next updates! ................................................... Sincerely, Hella Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
tony62
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tony62 posted this 01 August 2019

Thank you.

Thank you.
tony62
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tony62 posted this 16 September 2019

The next part of the question if you would be so kind.

  1. I have turned off autosaving.
  2. If I make changes then export the site to test I still
    have to save before it will export the site.

Why if I have turned off autosaving?

The next part of the question if you would be so kind. 1. I have turned off autosaving. 2. If I make changes then export the site to test I still have to save before it will export the site. Why if I have turned off autosaving?
Support Team
Support Team posted this 16 September 2019

Hi Tony,

Yes, this is how this option works. Export is not possible without saving changes in the desktop version.

We have added your request about the possibility of export without changes in our wishlist, but we cannot say whether this feature will be implemented or not and when.

Thanks for being with us.
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Sincerely,
Susanna I.
Nicepage Support Team

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Hi Tony, Yes, this is how this option works. Export is not possible without saving changes in the desktop version. We have added your request about the possibility of export without changes in our wishlist, but we cannot say whether this feature will be implemented or not and when. Thanks for being with us. ................................................... Sincerely, Susanna I. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp

Last edited 16 September 2019 by Support Team

moonwongjw2
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moonwongjw2 posted this 30 January 2020

Hi nicepage,

I just updated nicepage to v2.5.1
and found autosave come back.

Please check and stop autosave.

Thanks,
Moon

Hi nicepage, I just updated nicepage to v2.5.1 and found autosave come back. Please check and stop autosave. Thanks, Moon
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