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Qaiser Ikram
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Qaiser Ikram posted this 29 January 2021
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Dear Team

I am not here to disappoint you, but seriously, have you ever used Nicepage for yourself?
Everything is messy and takes more time than themler to create and produce a good website.

Most Persistent Issues with NicePage.

  1. No pagination available by default on Products List Template. You have to copy from Blog Posts Template.

  2. When you choose preset for Default Product Details Template, then products tabs gets vanished.

  3. When you see the results for different devices within NicePage, the overall pre-built block gets messy and height becomes way too much.

  4. Breadcrumbs needs to be inserted for each and every template

  5. Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets sticked with Blog Posts Template

  6. If you remove quantity or add to cart buttons from pre-build Product Details Templates, the product details gets messy

  7. Headers are still buggy. Let's say I've finalized a header look and when going live, the overall look doesn't resemble with the one, that looks in NicePage.

  8. If I've to change anything in header, then I've to come back to Desktop version, re-made the template and then re-upload, because in Online Plugin, header changes are not applied to Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates.

  9. There are no options in online Plugin to manage Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates.

  10. In desktop version, we can't save as previously built website (in order to work on it for another project)

  11. Wordpress Theme Photo is by default set to NicePage, it should automatically generate a thumbnail of home page (as themler does)

  12. When we change height of logo, menu position and anything that is in same block, changes its position in all views.

  13. Once you change position / height / width of any element in any block, it affects all views. So Only one change brings more work for us and for any change we have to re-do all responsive layouts (this problem is persistent from Nicepage Initial Beta)

  14. In themler, there is a option for blocks/section to make them box/wide/screen-width, that is pretty useful, but in NicePage, you have to manually resize blocks and still they don't appear as they are shown in Nicepage.

A VERY SERIOUS SUGGESTION
Kindly ask your designers/quality team (who are creating blocks and blocks for each update) to stop making blocks. Because there work is only beautiful when we don't customize them, As soon as we customize any of the block (change text, positions etc) the blocks becomes pain

Instead of making new blocks, kindly ask them to start using nicepage itself and see how it goes for end users.
Instead of making blocks, ask them to develop few real world websites. In this way they will find issues (that we users face) and they will be able to provide feedback to developers and hence, NicePage will become a good product.

For me, it is still a Beta Product, as it is still not ready for real world websites.
Please instead of adding more new features, first try to finalize the existing ones. Start Using NicePage for one week to find the problems and fix them in Next Version.
In this way you will have less complains and then you can focus on new updates.

Dear Team I am not here to disappoint you, but seriously, have you ever used Nicepage for yourself? Everything is messy and takes more time than themler to create and produce a good website. Most Persistent Issues with NicePage. 1. No pagination available by default on Products List Template. You have to copy from Blog Posts Template. 2. When you choose preset for Default Product Details Template, then products tabs gets vanished. 3. When you see the results for different devices within NicePage, the overall pre-built block gets messy and height becomes way too much. 4. Breadcrumbs needs to be inserted for each and every template 5. Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets sticked with Blog Posts Template 6. If you remove quantity or add to cart buttons from pre-build Product Details Templates, the product details gets messy 7. Headers are still buggy. Let's say I've finalized a header look and when going live, the overall look doesn't resemble with the one, that looks in NicePage. 8. If I've to change anything in header, then I've to come back to Desktop version, re-made the template and then re-upload, because in Online Plugin, header changes are not applied to Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates. 9. There are no options in online Plugin to manage Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates. 10. In desktop version, we can't save as previously built website (in order to work on it for another project) 11. Wordpress Theme Photo is by default set to NicePage, it should automatically generate a thumbnail of home page (as themler does) 12. When we change height of logo, menu position and anything that is in same block, changes its position in all views. 13. Once you change position / height / width of any element in any block, it affects all views. So Only one change brings more work for us and for any change we have to re-do all responsive layouts (this problem is persistent from Nicepage Initial Beta) 14. In themler, there is a option for blocks/section to make them box/wide/screen-width, that is pretty useful, but in NicePage, you have to manually resize blocks and still they don't appear as they are shown in Nicepage. A VERY SERIOUS SUGGESTION Kindly ask your designers/quality team (who are creating blocks and blocks for each update) to stop making blocks. Because there work is only beautiful when we don't customize them, As soon as we customize any of the block (change text, positions etc) the blocks becomes pain Instead of making new blocks, kindly ask them to start using nicepage itself and see how it goes for end users. Instead of making blocks, ask them to develop few real world websites. In this way they will find issues (that we users face) and they will be able to provide feedback to developers and hence, NicePage will become a good product. For me, it is still a Beta Product, as it is still not ready for real world websites. Please instead of adding more new features, first try to finalize the existing ones. Start Using NicePage for one week to find the problems and fix them in Next Version. In this way you will have less complains and then you can focus on new updates.

Last edited 01 February 2021 by Support Team

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migrgic
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migrgic posted this 29 January 2021

I agree totally with everything, and there is more like footer is set on hide but it is still shows in preview etc. Nicepage is no better than Themler and maybe worse. And I actually built some websites with Themler unlike with Nicepage.

I agree totally with everything, and there is more like footer is set on hide but it is still shows in preview etc. Nicepage is no better than Themler and maybe worse. And I actually built some websites with Themler unlike with Nicepage.

Last edited 01 February 2021 by Support Team

Qaiser Ikram
8 Posts
Qaiser Ikram posted this 29 January 2021
  1. Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets sticked with Blog Posts Template

I can hide the sidebar, from nicepage interface, but what i was trying to say is
When you have enabled the sidebar and have deleted all widgets in wordpress admin panel, then the sidebar should've been hidden by default, because it seems to be empty.

In themler, when you don't have any widgets in sidebar, it gets hidden itself, and when have a widget it becomes visible automatically.

1. Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets sticked with Blog Posts Template I can hide the sidebar, from nicepage interface, but what i was trying to say is When you have enabled the sidebar and have deleted all widgets in wordpress admin panel, then the sidebar should've been hidden by default, because it seems to be empty. In themler, when you don't have any widgets in sidebar, it gets hidden itself, and when have a widget it becomes visible automatically.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 01 February 2021

Qaiser,

First of all we use Nicepage every minute, and nicepage.com built with Nicepage.

No pagination available by default on Products List Template. You have to copy from Blog Posts Template.

We have create a blank site and went Theme->Product Details. Please see below

pagination-default.png

When you choose preset for Default Product Details Template, then products tabs gets vanished.

The preset sets not only the style but also the layout.

When you see the results for different devices within NicePage, the overall pre-built Block gets messy, and height becomes way too much.

Please follow the tips from https://nicepage.com/doc/36215/basic-tips-to-build-responsive-websites to get better results. You can also use the "Reset Responsive" on the Block if you don't like the results after making changes.

Breadcrumbs needs to be inserted for each and every template

We will change that.

Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets stuck with Blog Posts Template

You can select the no sidebar option in the Property Panel

no-sidebar.png

If you remove quantity or add to cart buttons from pre-build Product Details Templates, the product details get messy

Please provide a screenshot.

Headers are still buggy. Let's say I've finalized a header look, and when going live, the overall look doesn't resemble the one, that looks in NicePage.

Please provide a screenshot.

If I've to change anything in the header, then I've to come back to the Desktop version, re-made the template and then re-upload, because in Online Plugin, header changes are not applied to Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates.

Please provide a screenshot.

There are no options in online Plugin to manage Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates.

No option for now, and we are working on that.

In desktop version, we can't save as previously built website (in order to work on it for another project)

No option for now, and we are working on that. However, you can copy and paste pages and blocks between projects.

WordPress Theme Photo is by default set to NicePage, it should automatically generate a thumbnail of the home page (as themler does)

We are unable to do that since the Plugin is installed before the actual page is built. You can use the Ultimate version for uploading your poster for the template with the White Label feature.

When we change height of logo, menu position, and anything that is in the same Block, changes its position in all views.

Please use Grids to control the position of the individual cell-container.

Once you change position / height / width of any element in any block, it affects all views. So Only one change brings more work for us and for any change we have to re-do all responsive layouts (this problem is persistent from Nicepage Initial Beta)

Yes, the layout changes from desktop to phone. However, you can change then for the smaller screens, which does not change.

In themler, there is a option for blocks/section to make them box/wide/screen-width, that is pretty useful, but in NicePage, you have to manually resize blocks, and still they don't appear as they are shown in Nicepage.

We do have it for the blocks with the Grid.

Kindly ask your designers/quality team (who are creating blocks and blocks for each update) to stop making blocks. Because there work is only beautiful when we don't customize them, As soon as we customize any of the Block (change text, positions etc) the blocks becomes pain

Our designers are the Nicepage users as well, and they are using the same features. We do not agree that they have to stop doing their wonderful jobs.

Instead of making new blocks, kindly ask them to start using nicepage itself and see how it goes for end users.

They are using Nicepage every day, making beautiful websites.

Instead of making blocks, ask them to develop few real world websites. In this way, they will find issues (that we users face), and they will be able to provide feedback to developers and hence, NicePage will become a good product.

We are developing a good product. However, we still have a big room for improvement.

For me, it is still a Beta Product, as it is still not ready for real-world websites. Please, instead of adding more new features, first try to finalize the existing ones. Start Using NicePage for one week to find the problems and fix them in Next Version. In this way you will have fewer complaints and then you can focus on new updates.

We are doing hundreds of usability tests, on which users are building real websites, so we see the process from both sides.

Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets sticked with Blog Posts Template. I can hide the sidebar, from nicepage interface, but what I was trying to say is
When you have enabled the sidebar and have deleted all widgets in the WordPress admin panel, then the sidebar should've been hidden by default, because it seems to be empty. In themler, when you don't have any widgets in the sidebar, it gets hidden itself, and when you have a widget it becomes visible automatically.

Please see above.

It's ok that you do not like some of Nicepage. However, we are thankful for your support and feedback. We do hope that you will keep using our product, and will appreciate our hard work.

We will also appreciate if you create a separate case for each issue, as we might require some additional information, communication. And also, please keep it shorter, if possible. Thank you for your understanding!

...................................................
Sincerely,
Allen R.
Nicepage Support Team

Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1
Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp

Qaiser, First of all we use Nicepage every minute, and nicepage.com built with Nicepage. > No pagination available by default on Products List Template. You have to copy from Blog Posts Template. We have create a blank site and went Theme->Product Details. Please see below !pagination-default.png! > When you choose preset for Default Product Details Template, then products tabs gets vanished. The preset sets not only the style but also the layout. > When you see the results for different devices within NicePage, the overall pre-built Block gets messy, and height becomes way too much. Please follow the tips from https://nicepage.com/doc/36215/basic-tips-to-build-responsive-websites to get better results. You can also use the "Reset Responsive" on the Block if you don't like the results after making changes. > Breadcrumbs needs to be inserted for each and every template We will change that. > Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets stuck with Blog Posts Template You can select the no sidebar option in the Property Panel !no-sidebar.png! > If you remove quantity or add to cart buttons from pre-build Product Details Templates, the product details get messy Please provide a screenshot. > Headers are still buggy. Let's say I've finalized a header look, and when going live, the overall look doesn't resemble the one, that looks in NicePage. Please provide a screenshot. > If I've to change anything in the header, then I've to come back to the Desktop version, re-made the template and then re-upload, because in Online Plugin, header changes are not applied to Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates. Please provide a screenshot. > There are no options in online Plugin to manage Blog, Posts, Product List and Product Details Templates. No option for now, and we are working on that. > In desktop version, we can't save as previously built website (in order to work on it for another project) No option for now, and we are working on that. However, you can copy and paste pages and blocks between projects. > WordPress Theme Photo is by default set to NicePage, it should automatically generate a thumbnail of the home page (as themler does) We are unable to do that since the Plugin is installed before the actual page is built. You can use the Ultimate version for uploading your poster for the template with the White Label feature. > When we change height of logo, menu position, and anything that is in the same Block, changes its position in all views. Please use Grids to control the position of the individual cell-container. > Once you change position / height / width of any element in any block, it affects all views. So Only one change brings more work for us and for any change we have to re-do all responsive layouts (this problem is persistent from Nicepage Initial Beta) Yes, the layout changes from desktop to phone. However, you can change then for the smaller screens, which does not change. > In themler, there is a option for blocks/section to make them box/wide/screen-width, that is pretty useful, but in NicePage, you have to manually resize blocks, and still they don't appear as they are shown in Nicepage. We do have it for the blocks with the Grid. > Kindly ask your designers/quality team (who are creating blocks and blocks for each update) to stop making blocks. Because there work is only beautiful when we don't customize them, As soon as we customize any of the Block (change text, positions etc) the blocks becomes pain Our designers are the Nicepage users as well, and they are using the same features. We do not agree that they have to stop doing their wonderful jobs. > Instead of making new blocks, kindly ask them to start using nicepage itself and see how it goes for end users. They are using Nicepage every day, making beautiful websites. > Instead of making blocks, ask them to develop few real world websites. In this way, they will find issues (that we users face), and they will be able to provide feedback to developers and hence, NicePage will become a good product. We are developing a good product. However, we still have a big room for improvement. > For me, it is still a Beta Product, as it is still not ready for real-world websites. Please, instead of adding more new features, first try to finalize the existing ones. Start Using NicePage for one week to find the problems and fix them in Next Version. In this way you will have fewer complaints and then you can focus on new updates. We are doing hundreds of usability tests, on which users are building real websites, so we see the process from both sides. > Once you click on SideBar, there is no option to remove the sidebar, and it gets sticked with Blog Posts Template. I can hide the sidebar, from nicepage interface, but what I was trying to say is When you have enabled the sidebar and have deleted all widgets in the WordPress admin panel, then the sidebar should've been hidden by default, because it seems to be empty. In themler, when you don't have any widgets in the sidebar, it gets hidden itself, and when you have a widget it becomes visible automatically. Please see above. It's ok that you do not like some of Nicepage. However, we are thankful for your support and feedback. We do hope that you will keep using our product, and will appreciate our hard work. We will also appreciate if you create a separate case for each issue, as we might require some additional information, communication. And also, please keep it shorter, if possible. Thank you for your understanding! ................................................... Sincerely, Allen R. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
Qaiser Ikram
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Qaiser Ikram posted this 01 February 2021

Kindly See the Attached Files
They are self explanatory

Kindly See the Attached Files They are self explanatory
Qaiser Ikram
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Qaiser Ikram posted this 01 February 2021

Kindly see the product details pre-made block messing up
I've done no customization, this is the default look without any changes and you can see how it gets messed up in different views
same is happening with other blocks, I can't take so many screenshots and can't attach them here, but this one just to illustrate the problem

Kindly see the product details pre-made block messing up I've done no customization, this is the default look without any changes and you can see how it gets messed up in different views same is happening with other blocks, I can't take so many screenshots and can't attach them here, but this one just to illustrate the problem
Qaiser Ikram
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Qaiser Ikram posted this 01 February 2021

I was a user of Artisteer.
I am a user of Themler and also using NicePage.

But the way i develop websites and as per client's requirements, Themler still meets the expectations, but NicePage Doesn't.

My intention was not to disappoint you guys, neither i wanted to hurt anyone's feeling.
You guys have put a lot of efforts and I can see progress in NicePage, But still it lacks a lot (maybe in coming years it will be ready)

For real world websites. here is just a simple test
www.wordscent.com (made by me in Themler)
kindly try to replicate it in NicePage and you will see, how difficult it is to achieve

I was a user of Artisteer. I am a user of Themler and also using NicePage. But the way i develop websites and as per client's requirements, Themler still meets the expectations, but NicePage Doesn't. My intention was not to disappoint you guys, neither i wanted to hurt anyone's feeling. You guys have put a lot of efforts and I can see progress in NicePage, But still it lacks a lot (maybe in coming years it will be ready) For real world websites. here is just a simple test www.wordscent.com (made by me in Themler) kindly try to replicate it in NicePage and you will see, how difficult it is to achieve
Support Team
Support Team posted this 01 February 2021

Qaiser,

We are thankful for your comments. We just want to get the picture of what is not working correctly. We will forward your comments to the dev team.

...................................................
Sincerely,
Allen R.
Nicepage Support Team

Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1
Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp

Qaiser, We are thankful for your comments. We just want to get the picture of what is not working correctly. We will forward your comments to the dev team. ................................................... Sincerely, Allen R. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
Qaiser Ikram
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Qaiser Ikram posted this 02 February 2021

Thanks for you consideration.

If you want me to do a detailed post regarding each issue with screenshot, please let me know, so i can do it again in detailed way.

Thanks for you consideration. If you want me to do a detailed post regarding each issue with screenshot, please let me know, so i can do it again in detailed way.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 04 February 2021

Hi,

It should help us to investigate issues. But it is better to report each issue on an individual topic.

Kindly see the product details pre-made block messing up

It looks like this block does not use Grid. The easiest way to create a responsive layout is the use of the Grid. Otherwise, the Product elements require a lot of modifications in each mode.

...................................................
Sincerely,
Olivia
Nicepage Support Team

Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1
Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp

Hi, It should help us to investigate issues. But it is better to report each issue on an individual topic. > Kindly see the product details pre-made block messing up It looks like this block does not use Grid. The easiest way to create a responsive layout is the use of the Grid. Otherwise, the Product elements require a lot of modifications in each mode. ................................................... Sincerely, Olivia Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
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