reCaptcha V2

wouter.schatteman
3 Posts
wouter.schatteman posted this 14 September 2020
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Thank you for adding recaptcha support V3 to Nicepage.
However, myself and many others still report a lot of spam.
Would it be possible to add support for V2, even this request form has reCaptcha V2, V3 is simply not sufficient.

Thank you for adding recaptcha support V3 to Nicepage. However, myself and many others still report a lot of spam. Would it be possible to add support for V2, even this request form has reCaptcha V2, V3 is simply not sufficient.
Vote to pay developers attention to this features or issue.
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glasgowspeaker
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glasgowspeaker posted this 01 April 2023

I would like et reCaptcha V2 for Nicepage !!

Me 2 V2

> I would like et reCaptcha V2 for Nicepage !! Me 2 V2
olivier N
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olivier N posted this 21 July 2022

I would like et reCaptcha V2 for Nicepage !!

I would like et reCaptcha V2 for Nicepage !!
bArne
1 Posts
bArne posted this 18 September 2021

Upvote for V2-support. Interesting that Nicepage-devs try to convince the user of V3 and still use V2 in their own forum.

Upvote for V2-support. Interesting that Nicepage-devs try to convince the user of V3 and still use V2 in their own forum.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 18 June 2021

Hi,

Our developers checked the process of connecting reCaptcha v.3 to the Form created in Nicepage and made some changes.
These changes will be available in the next Nicepage 3.18 version. Please wait for this version and check how the form works on your side.
Please let us know the result.

Thank you for being with Nicepage.

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Susanna I.
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Hi, Our developers checked the process of connecting reCaptcha v.3 to the Form created in Nicepage and made some changes. These changes will be available in the next Nicepage 3.18 version. Please wait for this version and check how the form works on your side. Please let us know the result. Thank you for being with Nicepage. ................................................... Sincerely, Susanna I. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
wouter.schatteman
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wouter.schatteman posted this 17 June 2021

awsome, looking forward to it.

awsome, looking forward to it.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 16 June 2021

Hi,

Thanks for your comments, we have added your request for reCaptcha v. 2 to our wishlist.

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Susanna I.
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Hi, Thanks for your comments, we have added your request for reCaptcha v. 2 to our wishlist. ................................................... Sincerely, Susanna I. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
usalabs14
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usalabs14 posted this 15 June 2021

The problem is not with using recaptcha v3, but the way it works, and yes we know it's not the fault of NP, it's the fault of Google developers, but, in this case, I would assume that if NP, is getting complaint after complaint after complaint about recaptcha v3, then shouldn't NP dump it, in favor of v2?

You see, the way v3 works is on a scoring system, so initially when a website is setup to use V3, ALL bot spam has a score of 0, thus allowing it through, then while scores are being calculated, the bot generated spam is still being let through, then, as the scores start increasing, the spam will decrease, but this can take days, weeks or even months, depending on how much traffic a site has, and how much the recaptcha v3 is in use, but, this is where v2 out weighs v3 in all aspects, first, a bot can't check the box marked 'I'm not a robot', and second, a bot can't compare images, to determine which image contains a particular object, as in finding images in a recaptcha v2 that has a bicycle, and that even includes just the front wheel, and a bot can't do that, only a human can, which means that some people that have tons of spam to post can't be bothered to mess around with images.

There is also another form of recaptcha that uses an image but part of it removed and presented as a jigsaw piece and you HAVE to use the mouse to move that piece into it's proper slot to continue, you see, any form of recaptcha that is not autonomous and only operated by a human should be acceptable for spam prevention, hence why I chose to use an external script that utilizes recaptcha v2 in my data collection forms (such as contact and comments) on my website created with NP.

The problem is not with using recaptcha v3, but the way it works, and yes we know it's not the fault of NP, it's the fault of Google developers, but, in this case, I would assume that if NP, is getting complaint after complaint after complaint about recaptcha v3, then shouldn't NP dump it, in favor of v2? You see, the way v3 works is on a scoring system, so initially when a website is setup to use V3, ALL bot spam has a score of 0, thus allowing it through, then while scores are being calculated, the bot generated spam is still being let through, then, as the scores start increasing, the spam will decrease, but this can take days, weeks or even months, depending on how much traffic a site has, and how much the recaptcha v3 is in use, but, this is where v2 out weighs v3 in all aspects, first, a bot can't check the box marked 'I'm not a robot', and second, a bot can't compare images, to determine which image contains a particular object, as in finding images in a recaptcha v2 that has a bicycle, and that even includes just the front wheel, and a bot can't do that, only a human can, which means that some people that have tons of spam to post can't be bothered to mess around with images. There is also another form of recaptcha that uses an image but part of it removed and presented as a jigsaw piece and you HAVE to use the mouse to move that piece into it's proper slot to continue, you see, any form of recaptcha that is not autonomous and only operated by a human should be acceptable for spam prevention, hence why I chose to use an external script that utilizes recaptcha v2 in my data collection forms (such as contact and comments) on my website created with NP.

Last edited 15 June 2021 by usalabs14

Support Team
Support Team posted this 04 June 2021

Hi,

Well, there is no badge anywhere on the page at all, which means it
doesn't work.

It looks like the problem is in the reCaptcha keys (you made a mistake when added them under Site Settings >> Google tab or used keys for ReCaptcha v.2).
Please check ReCaptcha settings https://nicepage.com/doc/61415/recaptcha-integration.

If you need further assistance, create a private case and provide your Desktop Project, we will check the problem.

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Sincerely,
Susanna I.
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Hi, > Well, there is no badge anywhere on the page at all, which means it > doesn't work. It looks like the problem is in the reCaptcha keys (you made a mistake when added them under *Site Settings >> Google* tab or used keys for ReCaptcha v.2). Please check ReCaptcha settings https://nicepage.com/doc/61415/recaptcha-integration. If you need further assistance, create a private case and provide your Desktop Project, we will check the problem. ................................................... Sincerely, Susanna I. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp

Last edited 04 June 2021 by Support Team

wouter.schatteman
3 Posts
wouter.schatteman posted this 04 June 2021

Thank you for looking into this.

Thank you for looking into this.
usalabs14
15 Posts
usalabs14 posted this 03 June 2021

Well, there is no badge anywhere on the page at all, which means it doesn't work.

If v3 won't work, and I'm getting tons of spam, then it'll be a case of dumping the contact form and just use the same comments script which can be configured as a contact form, which does use v2 and it works.

Well, there is no badge anywhere on the page at all, which means it doesn't work. If v3 won't work, and I'm getting tons of spam, then it'll be a case of dumping the contact form and just use the same comments script which can be configured as a contact form, which does use v2 and it works.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 03 June 2021

Hi,

I too request recaptcha v2 with the 'I'm not a robot' check box.

We have added your request too.

Please note Nicepage provides you the opportunity to use Google reCAPTCHA v3. If you see the ReCaptcha badge in the bottom right corner of the website, then it works. And Nicepage is not responsible for exactly how it works, efficiently or not.

Also note, reCaptcha v.3 works differently, it analyzes the behavior across an entire site:
https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3
https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2018/10/introducing-recaptcha-v3-new-way-to.htm

But our developers will check if there is a problem on our end. We will let you know when we receive a response from them.

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Sincerely,
Susanna I.
Nicepage Support Team

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Hi, > I too request recaptcha v2 with the 'I'm not a robot' check box. We have added your request too. Please note Nicepage provides you the opportunity to use Google reCAPTCHA v3. If you see the ReCaptcha badge in the bottom right corner of the website, then it works. And Nicepage is not responsible for exactly how it works, efficiently or not. Also note, reCaptcha v.3 works differently, it analyzes the behavior across an entire site: https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3 https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2018/10/introducing-recaptcha-v3-new-way-to.htm But our developers will check if there is a problem on our end. We will let you know when we receive a response from them. ................................................... Sincerely, Susanna I. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
usalabs14
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usalabs14 posted this 03 June 2021

I too request recaptcha v2 with the 'I'm not a robot' check box.

V3 just doesn't work on the pre-made contact template.

I'm getting tons of spam, and V2 is a lot better than V3, there are more websites that use V2 with the "I;m not a robot" checkbox, than I've seen with V3, I use V2 in the comments section of my website.

I may have to remove any forms from my website created by nicepage, if I can't use recaptcha v2 .

I too request recaptcha v2 with the 'I'm not a robot' check box. V3 just doesn't work on the pre-made contact template. I'm getting tons of spam, and V2 is a lot better than V3, there are more websites that use V2 with the "I;m not a robot" checkbox, than I've seen with V3, I use V2 in the comments section of my website. I may have to remove any forms from my website created by nicepage, if I can't use recaptcha v2 .

Last edited 03 June 2021 by usalabs14

iveta.halanova2
5 Posts
iveta.halanova2 posted this 17 November 2020

I vote for v2 too
It's annoying and I don't have time to implement it myself into exported code

I vote for v2 too It's annoying and I don't have time to implement it myself into exported code
Support Team
Support Team posted this 14 September 2020

Hi Wouter,

We'll consider your suggestion. Also I believe that Recaptcha 3 algorithm will be further improved.

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Sincerely,
Hella
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Hi Wouter, We'll consider your suggestion. Also I believe that Recaptcha 3 algorithm will be further improved. ................................................... Sincerely, Hella Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
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