Will Nicepage be abandoned software like Themler?

souacz
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souacz posted this 30 June 2019

http://answers.themler.io/questions/189336/is-it-the-end-of-themler/

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Giumarr
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Giumarr posted this 01 July 2019

done with nicepage in joomla http://split.to/CPFWsxz
al so done in joomla nicepage http://split.to/U2BeBIL

The disadvantage of nicepage is that it has far fewer options than themler (I have to add css code)
for form aspects and some other tags

The advantages it has is that
1 - with nicepage you go much, much faster.
2- it is easier to make beautiful sites
3 - high values on gtmetrix and google pagespeeed
4 - work in joomla article so it's full compatible whis PWT SEO (fantastic it's like yoast seo, pwt in my opinion it' better)
it's full compatible to plugin who have { } or short code.
5 - And also you have the clients licenses with which the customer can manage the site (like a beautifull page builder)

In my opinion nicepage for joomla is the best template solution and is the best existing page builder, i have all page builder for joomla, nice page is much bertter

if you need information I have nicepage ultimate license
and templalte toaster (it's a boostrap site maker, They don't add features long, they only care about compatibility with the new cms versions More or less like temler they are making it survive)

i suggest to switch to nicepage and learn some css code

Nicepage is the future, I recommend it even if they will have to add some things like on the typography of form elements

done with nicepage in joomla http://split.to/CPFWsxz al so done in joomla nicepage http://split.to/U2BeBIL The disadvantage of nicepage is that it has far fewer options than themler (I have to add css code) for form aspects and some other tags The advantages it has is that 1 - with nicepage you go much, much faster. 2- it is easier to make beautiful sites 3 - high values on gtmetrix and google pagespeeed 4 - work in joomla article so it's full compatible whis PWT SEO (fantastic it's like yoast seo, pwt in my opinion it' better) it's full compatible to plugin who have { } or short code. 5 - And also you have the clients licenses with which the customer can manage the site (like a beautifull page builder) In my opinion nicepage for joomla is the best template solution and is the best existing page builder, **i have all page builder for joomla**, nice page is much bertter if you need information I have nicepage ultimate license and templalte toaster (it's a boostrap site maker, They don't add features long, they only care about compatibility with the new cms versions More or less like temler they are making it survive) i suggest to switch to nicepage and learn some css code Nicepage is the future, I recommend it even if they will have to add some things like on the typography of form elements

Last edited 01 July 2019 by Giumarr

souacz
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souacz posted this 01 July 2019

It's not that I do not know the css codes and that's why I need Themler. In the "additional css" window I always added a lot of my own code. I built simple websites on Themler (eg https://www.positiv.com.pl/o-nas) and, for example, web portals (https://www.cenyrolnicze.pl/). Themler with the ability to match each element of the page is a very advanced tool and Nicepage does not seem like that. Perhaps it is a better tool, as you write, if the final code is of higher quality it is very good.

My question was, will Nicepage soon be abandoned software like Themler? I just do not know if I can once again trust a company that deals with its clients - for example, it still charges for abandoned software and does not announce anywhere that it is no longer supported and developed.

Maybe someone from the support will give a clear answer:
1. What about Themler? Will there still be support, bug fixes etc.?
2. If not, how can they convince me to go to Nicepage if they treat customers like that?

It's not that I do not know the css codes and that's why I need Themler. In the "additional css" window I always added a lot of my own code. I built simple websites on Themler (eg https://www.positiv.com.pl/o-nas) and, for example, web portals (https://www.cenyrolnicze.pl/). Themler with the ability to match each element of the page is a very advanced tool and Nicepage does not seem like that. Perhaps it is a better tool, as you write, if the final code is of higher quality it is very good. My question was, will Nicepage soon be abandoned software like Themler? I just do not know if I can once again trust a company that deals with its clients - for example, it still charges for abandoned software and does not announce anywhere that it is no longer supported and developed. Maybe someone from the support will give a clear answer: 1. What about Themler? Will there still be support, bug fixes etc.? 2. If not, how can they convince me to go to Nicepage if they treat customers like that?
Giumarr
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Giumarr posted this 01 July 2019

First of all, congratulations, your sites are very beautiful

I agree with you, their communication should be improved, they should better explain to the client that happens from time to time, explaining before and not later.

For example, they completely revised the nicepage interface.
They did a wonderful job, but while they did it for 2 months no one knew what was going on, some assumed the end of nicepace.
They said nothing, then they arrived with this great improvement

It has always been like this since the artisteer, there are unclear passages.

It's a sensational marketing mistake, don't explain, don't hold the customer by the hand.

I also have an active license for themler, I also wanted them to carry it out better, on nicepage they lack certain things that themler has.
However the speed at which I create things is now much increased and I'm just using nicepage.

Their programs are always exceptional.
From artister to themler to nicepage.
Even if abandoning them out of the blue without saying anything is not the best, they turn out excellent software.

Every time they leave one we get angry, it shows that they make great software

I've tried all pagebuilder licenses.
For joomla especially, nothing compares to nicepage, for me it's fantastic.

Although there is still to be improved, in particular the addition of more elements in typography

First of all, congratulations, your sites are very beautiful I agree with you, their communication should be improved, they should better explain to the client that happens from time to time, explaining before and not later. For example, they completely revised the nicepage interface. They did a wonderful job, but while they did it for 2 months no one knew what was going on, some assumed the end of nicepace. They said nothing, then they arrived with this great improvement It has always been like this since the artisteer, there are unclear passages. It's a sensational marketing mistake, don't explain, don't hold the customer by the hand. I also have an active license for themler, I also wanted them to carry it out better, on nicepage they lack certain things that themler has. However the speed at which I create things is now much increased and I'm just using nicepage. Their programs are always exceptional. From artister to themler to nicepage. Even if abandoning them out of the blue without saying anything is not the best, they turn out excellent software. Every time they leave one we get angry, it shows that they make great software I've tried all pagebuilder licenses. For joomla especially, nothing compares to nicepage, for me it's fantastic. Although there is still to be improved, in particular the addition of more elements in typography

Last edited 01 July 2019 by Giumarr

admin168
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admin168 posted this 02 July 2019

I too have had no response from Themler support for a few months. One moment they were responding promptly, then in the middle of one problem, they just stopped replying and I never got a final resolution.

I can't understand why they appear to have abandoned the software so soon. I'm not a coder and it has taken me almost 2 years to get to grips with it, but I still have problems that I need help with.

Anyway, I decided after a while to buy Nicepage and their support on that is as good as it used to be with Themler. It's as if their whole support team suddenly moved to a new office and are not seeing their Themler support tickets any more.
Was there some huge problem with their programming that they couldn't find a fix for? Like when they abandoned Artisteer because they were unable to improve on the model they had used in order to bring the designs up to date? I realise that things online are moving at an incredible pace... but 2 years? Is that all the support we can expect these days before it becomes totally obsolete? I have not made my money back on either project yet because most of my sites remain unfinished due to bugs that haven't been fixed.

There are things I love about Nicepage, but there are also a lot of things i created in Themler that Nicepage can't do yet. Plus, they are still having some problems with the responsive views.

I agree with others here. If they have abandoned development on Themler. They need to make it clear and give their customers free use to Nicepage for the remainder of their license. It will be a great shame, and not much help to the creativity and diversity of the internet if Nicepage doesn't give the same amount of control over the designs as Themler does.

I too have had no response from Themler support for a few months. One moment they were responding promptly, then in the middle of one problem, they just stopped replying and I never got a final resolution. I can't understand why they appear to have abandoned the software so soon. I'm not a coder and it has taken me almost 2 years to get to grips with it, but I still have problems that I need help with. Anyway, I decided after a while to buy Nicepage and their support on that is as good as it used to be with Themler. It's as if their whole support team suddenly moved to a new office and are not seeing their Themler support tickets any more. Was there some huge problem with their programming that they couldn't find a fix for? Like when they abandoned Artisteer because they were unable to improve on the model they had used in order to bring the designs up to date? I realise that things online are moving at an incredible pace... but 2 years? Is that all the support we can expect these days before it becomes totally obsolete? I have not made my money back on either project yet because most of my sites remain unfinished due to bugs that haven't been fixed. There are things I love about Nicepage, but there are also a lot of things i created in Themler that Nicepage can't do yet. Plus, they are still having some problems with the responsive views. I agree with others here. If they have abandoned development on Themler. They need to make it clear and give their customers free use to Nicepage for the remainder of their license. It will be a great shame, and not much help to the creativity and diversity of the internet if Nicepage doesn't give the same amount of control over the designs as Themler does.
daveozric
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daveozric posted this 02 July 2019

I do not want to switch, YET AGAIN, to another system. If they abandon this project for that one I will not forget and move on.

They made me switch all my sites from Artisteer. It's taken me years to do and cost me hours of work as I could not charge my client's full price for the changes. Now I am almost done with the last site and they are doing this.

I do not want to switch, YET AGAIN, to another system. If they abandon this project for that one I will not forget and move on. They made me switch all my sites from Artisteer. It's taken me years to do and cost me hours of work as I could not charge my client's full price for the changes. Now I am almost done with the last site and they are doing this.
souacz
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souacz posted this 02 July 2019

I think we have to describe the whole situation on the forums of Joomla, Wordpress, Drupal, Presstashop, WooComerce and Virtuemart to warn others against this company and its products. Of course, if we do not get fast, satisfactory and unambiguous answer to our questions because the software they develop is very good, the only problem is the unfair behavior of the company with customers.

I think we have to describe the whole situation on the forums of Joomla, Wordpress, Drupal, Presstashop, WooComerce and Virtuemart to warn others against this company and its products. Of course, if we do not get fast, satisfactory and unambiguous answer to our questions because the software they develop is very good, the only problem is the unfair behavior of the company with customers.

Last edited 02 July 2019 by souacz

daveozric
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daveozric posted this 02 July 2019

I am not going to do that unless they stick it to us and stop developing this system. As of now, it works, they do answer bug or help with issues.

What I need is some freaking updates to the damn thing. Mobile menu, Google Fonts, icons updated/added. The rest is fine for now.

I love this program and once you master it, there is no other thing like it.

I am not going to do that unless they stick it to us and stop developing this system. As of now, it works, they do answer bug or help with issues. What I need is some freaking updates to the damn thing. Mobile menu, Google Fonts, icons updated/added. The rest is fine for now. I love this program and once you master it, there is no other thing like it.
souacz
5 Posts
souacz posted this 02 July 2019

I am not going to do that unless they stick it to us and stop developing this system.

I am writing just about such situation. They should answer our questions because the condition we currently have is unacceptable

> I am not going to do that unless they stick it to us and stop developing this system. I am writing just about such situation. They should answer our questions because the condition we currently have is unacceptable
daveozric
17 Posts
daveozric posted this 02 July 2019

I understand I am just as frustrated as you are. My experience with this developer is not a typical one so if they get a stable product with NP, they may come back to us. Joomla 4 will be the proof.

I will not bite the hand that feeds me yet.

I understand I am just as frustrated as you are. My experience with this developer is not a typical one so if they get a stable product with NP, they may come back to us. Joomla 4 will be the proof. I will not bite the hand that feeds me yet.
souacz
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souacz posted this 02 July 2019

I will not bite the hand that feeds me yet.

So do I. I still hope that the situation will be clarified. Themler is the best software to build templates for CMS.
And here is the proof of my good intentions (point 3 -translate it with Google):
https://jug-poznan.joomla.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=167&catid=107

> I will not bite the hand that feeds me yet. So do I. I still hope that the situation will be clarified. Themler is the best software to build templates for CMS. And here is the proof of my good intentions (point 3 -translate it with Google): https://jug-poznan.joomla.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=167&catid=107

Last edited 02 July 2019 by souacz

ebay8
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ebay8 posted this 2 weeks ago

Yes this is very sad. Themler did all that I wanted and was a decent product. I was a sucker and purchased nicepage but it just seemed to make onepage websites. And not compatible with my existing Themler website. I too got sucked in with Artisteer originally. Today I notice that my google maps aren't showing as they are http while my site is https. Themler wouldn't work on PHP 7.3 . So its just a matter of time before this fine product dies. Why on earth would we trust nicepage not to be killed at any minute too? I would renew the Themler licence but it seems to be abandonware.

Yes this is very sad. Themler did all that I wanted and was a decent product. I was a sucker and purchased nicepage but it just seemed to make onepage websites. And not compatible with my existing Themler website. I too got sucked in with Artisteer originally. Today I notice that my google maps aren't showing as they are http while my site is https. Themler wouldn't work on PHP 7.3 . So its just a matter of time before this fine product dies. Why on earth would we trust nicepage not to be killed at any minute too? I would renew the Themler licence but it seems to be abandonware.
Wartburg-Entertainment
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Wartburg-Entertainment posted this 2 weeks ago

Actually we only need Themler with Bootstrap 4 for Joomla 4. The Themler is not perfect we know, but what good is Nicepage without Ecommerce supports. And what excites me the most is that you have to revise the page after every update of Nicepage. Every time the mobile versions look different. For this I should extend the subscription. I will follow the development of Nicepage, but I will not invest!

Greetings from Germany

Actually we only need Themler with Bootstrap 4 for Joomla 4. The Themler is not perfect we know, but what good is Nicepage without Ecommerce supports. And what excites me the most is that you have to revise the page after every update of Nicepage. Every time the mobile versions look different. For this I should extend the subscription. I will follow the development of Nicepage, but I will not invest! Greetings from Germany
Wartburg-Entertainment
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Wartburg-Entertainment posted this 2 weeks ago

One more note: you really can not give Themler up. Many online shops have been made with it, including certainly one who has the money to sue the Themler team for loss of sales, because his shop can no longer sell. In addition, the Themler team ruled very fast at the last update of Virtuemart. I think and hope Themler does not shirk!

One more note: you really can not give Themler up. Many online shops have been made with it, including certainly one who has the money to sue the Themler team for loss of sales, because his shop can no longer sell. In addition, the Themler team ruled very fast at the last update of Virtuemart. I think and hope Themler does not shirk!
Виктор
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Виктор posted this yesterday

Всем привет, я Виктор, недавно задал вопрос по этой теме на форме Themler, мне дали ответ.
Вот ссылка http://answers.themler.io/questions/193221/

Всем привет, я Виктор, недавно задал вопрос по этой теме на форме Themler, мне дали ответ. Вот ссылка http://answers.themler.io/questions/193221/

Last edited yesterday by Виктор

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