Page Insights - Speed - Wordpress - tips - what about you ?

voodoo
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voodoo posted this 18 February 2022
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I have looked but cant find any tips on how to get a better with Google Page Insights when you have a generic wordpress site with nicepage plugin.

here is what I use - and I still have issues with a poor Page Insights score
1. Cloudflare - gives me SSL, minify JavaScript - CSS - HTML , + Brotli
2. W3 Total Cache plugin configured to work with cloudflare
3, Yoast SEO - usual settings
4. Have gzip enabled as well in.htaccess
5. Obviously I use a Nicepage wordpress theme and pages created with nicepage

But still I only get Mobile 22 and Desktop 47. Page Insights reports :-

First Contentful Paint 3.5s , Time to Interactive 16.9s, Speed Index 14.1s
Total Blocking Time 9,760 ms , Largest Contentful Paint 6.3 s , Cumulative Layout Shift 0

Using latest version of WP 5.8.1 and php 7.4

What else can I do or change

I should add that gtmetrix gives the same page the following:-

Performance 89% , Structure 90% , Largest Contentful Paint 1.4s , Total Blocking Time 123ms , Cumulative Layout Shift 0
(I think page sights is more important though)

I have looked but cant find any tips on how to get a better with Google Page Insights when you have a generic wordpress site with nicepage plugin. here is what I use - and I still have issues with a poor Page Insights score 1. Cloudflare - gives me SSL, minify JavaScript - CSS - HTML , + Brotli 2. W3 Total Cache plugin configured to work with cloudflare 3, Yoast SEO - usual settings 4. Have gzip enabled as well in.htaccess 5. Obviously I use a Nicepage wordpress theme and pages created with nicepage But still I only get Mobile 22 and Desktop 47. Page Insights reports :- **First Contentful Paint 3.5s , Time to Interactive 16.9s, Speed Index 14.1s Total Blocking Time 9,760 ms , Largest Contentful Paint 6.3 s , Cumulative Layout Shift 0** Using latest version of WP 5.8.1 and php 7.4 What else can I do or change I should add that gtmetrix gives the same page the following:- Performance 89% , Structure 90% , Largest Contentful Paint 1.4s , Total Blocking Time 123ms , Cumulative Layout Shift 0 (I think page sights is more important though)

Last edited 18 February 2022 by voodoo

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Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 18 February 2022
  1. Check is your images in right resolution, optimized and in modern fast format (webp for photos and svg for vectors).
  2. Try some WP plugins for optimization on CMS side (not from Cloudflare).
  3. Use cache.
  4. Try to use more fast server.
1. Check is your images in right resolution, optimized and in modern fast format (webp for photos and svg for vectors). 2. Try some WP plugins for optimization on CMS side (not from Cloudflare). 3. Use cache. 4. Try to use more fast server.
voodoo
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voodoo posted this 18 February 2022

I have converted images to webp format (I should have mentioned that)
As I said I am using W3 Total cache - I know there are others but W3 seems to be one the most popular and integrates it's settings with cloudflare.

I have only just moved to a new hosting company and server - using php 7.4 etc.

I just did a test using Nicepage and export to html and then load that on the server in a test area - I get 44/100 on Mobile and 96/100 desktop - using page insights.

Maybe I should abandon wordpress and just do a html site ?

I have converted images to webp format (I should have mentioned that) As I said I am using W3 Total cache - I know there are others but W3 seems to be one the most popular and integrates it's settings with cloudflare. I have only just moved to a new hosting company and server - using php 7.4 etc. I just did a test using Nicepage and export to html and then load that on the server in a test area - I get 44/100 on Mobile and 96/100 desktop - using page insights. Maybe I should abandon wordpress and just do a html site ?

Last edited 18 February 2022 by voodoo

Vitaliy WD
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Vitaliy WD posted this 19 February 2022

HTML will be faster anyway, as there no need to connect to database. But you can also test speed of same website on other server.... get somewhere trial period for test. Server (hosting) can really work slow and decrease speed metrics. Time to Interactive 16.9s, Speed Index 14.1s - it's too long (as it in seconds, not ms). Maybe you miss some image that in high resolution (2k, 4k)?

HTML will be faster anyway, as there no need to connect to database. But you can also test speed of same website on other server.... get somewhere trial period for test. Server (hosting) can really work slow and decrease speed metrics. Time to Interactive 16.9s, Speed Index 14.1s - it's too long (as it in seconds, not ms). Maybe you miss some image that in high resolution (2k, 4k)?
voodoo
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voodoo posted this 19 February 2022

I just completed some tests - using the same page layouts. Wordpress with NicePage Page and Theme, Same Nicepage Theme but with same page created with Visual composer, same page created in Nicepage exported as HTML.

detailed results attached in jpg

Summary

1 Wordpress Nicepage Theme - Nicepage page

Mobile 27, First Contentful Paint 3.5 s , Time to Interactive 10.4 s, Speed Index 6.8 s, Total Blocking Time 2,410 ms,Largest Contentful Paint 8.0 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0

Desktop 74 First Contentful Paint 0.9 s, Time to Interactive 2.6 s, Speed Index 2.0 s, Total Blocking Time 350 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 1.6 s. Cumulative Layout Shift 0

2 Wordpress Nicepage Theme Visual Composer Page

Mobile 50 , First Contentful Paint 3.2 s, Time to Interactive 9.5 s, Speed Index 4.4 s, Total Blocking Time 1,450 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 3.6 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0

Desktop 75, First Contentful Paint 0.8 s, Time to Interactive 2.3 s, Speed Index 1.2 s, Total Blocking Time 530 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 0.9

3 Nicepage HTML exported site / page

Mobile 43, First Contentful Paint 3.2 s, Time to Interactive 8.4 s, Speed Index 4.8 s, Total Blocking Time 1,370 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 4.7 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0

Desktop 98, First Contentful Paint 0.9 s, Time to Interactive 1.6 s, Speed Index 0.9 s, Total Blocking Time 10 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 1.0 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0

To sum up - Nicepage HTML page - wins on every count.

Visual composer and Nicepage fairly equal on the Desktop test with 74/75 , Visual Composer better on the Mobile it got 50 , Nicepage got 25.

The only question to myself is - does the functionality of wordpress give me benefits over just having a fast loading site.

I just completed some tests - using the same page layouts. Wordpress with NicePage Page and Theme, Same Nicepage Theme but with same page created with Visual composer, same page created in Nicepage exported as HTML. detailed results attached in jpg Summary **1 Wordpress Nicepage Theme - Nicepage page** **Mobile 27**, First Contentful Paint 3.5 s , Time to Interactive 10.4 s, Speed Index 6.8 s, Total Blocking Time 2,410 ms,Largest Contentful Paint 8.0 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0 **Desktop 74** First Contentful Paint 0.9 s, Time to Interactive 2.6 s, Speed Index 2.0 s, Total Blocking Time 350 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 1.6 s. Cumulative Layout Shift 0 **2 Wordpress Nicepage Theme Visual Composer Page** **Mobile 50** , First Contentful Paint 3.2 s, Time to Interactive 9.5 s, Speed Index 4.4 s, Total Blocking Time 1,450 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 3.6 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0 **Desktop 75**, First Contentful Paint 0.8 s, Time to Interactive 2.3 s, Speed Index 1.2 s, Total Blocking Time 530 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 0.9 **3 Nicepage HTML exported site / page** **Mobile 43**, First Contentful Paint 3.2 s, Time to Interactive 8.4 s, Speed Index 4.8 s, Total Blocking Time 1,370 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 4.7 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0 **Desktop 98**, First Contentful Paint 0.9 s, Time to Interactive 1.6 s, Speed Index 0.9 s, Total Blocking Time 10 ms, Largest Contentful Paint 1.0 s, Cumulative Layout Shift 0 **To sum up - Nicepage HTML page - wins on every count.** Visual composer and Nicepage fairly equal on the Desktop test with 74/75 , Visual Composer better on the Mobile it got 50 , Nicepage got 25. The only question to myself is - does the functionality of wordpress give me benefits over just having a fast loading site.

Last edited 19 February 2022 by voodoo

voodoo
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voodoo posted this 19 February 2022

I should add that using gtmetrix with a nicepage theme and a nicepage page I get :-

Performance 91% , Structure 91% , Largest Contentful Paint 1.4s
Total Blocking Time 80ms , Cumulative Layout Shift 0

After reading up on page insights vs gtmetrix vd pingdom etc I'm of the opinion page insights is a total waste of time

I should add that using gtmetrix with a nicepage theme and a nicepage page I get :- Performance 91% , Structure 91% , Largest Contentful Paint 1.4s Total Blocking Time 80ms , Cumulative Layout Shift 0 After reading up on page insights vs gtmetrix vd pingdom etc I'm of the opinion page insights is a total waste of time

Last edited 19 February 2022 by voodoo

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Support Team posted this 22 February 2022

Hi,

The download speed can be high depending on the hosting load, depending on the time of the day and in a specific period.
Use CDN, disable unused applications.
Check the speed when using our and not our Theme (on the same server) if both work slowly, then there is no problem from Nicepage. If the difference is significant, then please create a private case and provide temporary access to the WP admin panel.

Also, enable the Image Lazy Loading option in Nicepage Editor, disable unused plugins (to reduce the number of queries to the database).

...................................................
Sincerely,
Susanna I.
Nicepage Support Team

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Hi, The download speed can be high depending on the hosting load, depending on the time of the day and in a specific period. Use CDN, disable unused applications. Check the speed when using our and not our Theme (on the same server) if both work slowly, then there is no problem from Nicepage. If the difference is significant, then please create a private case and provide temporary access to the WP admin panel. Also, enable the *Image Lazy Loading* option in Nicepage Editor, disable unused plugins (to reduce the number of queries to the database). ................................................... Sincerely, Susanna I. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
Giumarr
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Giumarr posted this 22 October 2022

I have looked but cant find any tips on how to get a better with Google Page Insights when you have a generic wordpress site with nicepage plugin.

here is what I use - and I still have issues with a poor Page Insights score
1. Cloudflare - gives me SSL, minify JavaScript - CSS - HTML , + Brotli
2. W3 Total Cache plugin configured to work with cloudflare
3, Yoast SEO - usual settings
4. Have gzip enabled as well in.htaccess
5. Obviously I use a Nicepage wordpress theme and pages created with nicepage

But still I only get Mobile 22 and Desktop 47. Page Insights reports :-

First Contentful Paint 3.5s , Time to Interactive 16.9s, Speed Index 14.1s
Total Blocking Time 9,760 ms , Largest Contentful Paint 6.3 s , Cumulative Layout Shift 0

Using latest version of WP 5.8.1 and php 7.4

What else can I do or change

I should add that gtmetrix gives the same page the following:-

Performance 89% , Structure 90% , Largest Contentful Paint 1.4s , Total Blocking Time 123ms , Cumulative Layout Shift 0
(I think page sights is more important though)

here my result wordpress, and plugin assets clenup pro (pro vesion paid version)
https://www.gabelivan.com/items/wp-asset-cleanup-pro/

> I have looked but cant find any tips on how to get a better with Google Page Insights when you have a generic wordpress site with nicepage plugin. > > here is what I use - and I still have issues with a poor Page Insights score > 1. Cloudflare - gives me SSL, minify JavaScript - CSS - HTML , + Brotli > 2. W3 Total Cache plugin configured to work with cloudflare > 3, Yoast SEO - usual settings > 4. Have gzip enabled as well in.htaccess > 5. Obviously I use a Nicepage wordpress theme and pages created with nicepage > > But still I only get Mobile 22 and Desktop 47. Page Insights reports :- > > **First Contentful Paint 3.5s , Time to Interactive 16.9s, Speed Index 14.1s > Total Blocking Time 9,760 ms , Largest Contentful Paint 6.3 s , Cumulative Layout Shift 0** > > Using latest version of WP 5.8.1 and php 7.4 > > What else can I do or change > > I should add that gtmetrix gives the same page the following:- > > Performance 89% , Structure 90% , Largest Contentful Paint 1.4s , Total Blocking Time 123ms , Cumulative Layout Shift 0 > (I think page sights is more important though) here my result wordpress, and plugin assets clenup pro (pro vesion paid version) https://www.gabelivan.com/items/wp-asset-cleanup-pro/
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