SEO Keywords

rcmcatering2
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rcmcatering2 posted this 30 April 2020
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Hi,

I'm intending publishing my new Nicepage website this weekend and I'm currently looking at SEO prior to launch.

Could anyone please tell me whether I need to separate keywords as I type them in, as in comma or full stop separated, or just place each word after the previous one with a space?

Any help gratefully received

Andy

Hi, I'm intending publishing my new Nicepage website this weekend and I'm currently looking at SEO prior to launch. Could anyone please tell me whether I need to separate keywords as I type them in, as in comma or full stop separated, or just place each word after the previous one with a space? Any help gratefully received Andy
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Ch3vr0n
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Ch3vr0n posted this 01 May 2020

keywords arent really important anymore, meta descriptions on the other hand very much are.

https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2009/09/google-does-not-use-keywords-meta-tag.html

keywords arent really important anymore, meta descriptions on the other hand very much are. https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2009/09/google-does-not-use-keywords-meta-tag.html
rcmcatering2
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rcmcatering2 posted this 01 May 2020

Hi ch3vr0n,

Thank you for the information - very much appreciated :-)

Andy

Hi ch3vr0n, Thank you for the information - very much appreciated :-) Andy
rcmcatering2
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rcmcatering2 posted this 02 May 2020

Afternoon,

I'm just wondering / hoping if anyone with experience in SEO may have a few minutes to spare and could possibly point me in the right direction as to where I might look for resources prior to publishing, please?

I'm acutely aware that SEO has moved on considerably since I last published a site, but Nicepage is new to me as well and trying to get my head around everything is hard work for a Catering Engineer!

If anyone could possibly offer any tips or maybe recommend a few "Don't do this / Definately do that" nuggets of advice, I'd be very grateful.

Hope everything is good wherever you all are in the world :-)

Cheers, and stay safe.

Andy

Afternoon, I'm just wondering / hoping if anyone with experience in SEO may have a few minutes to spare and could possibly point me in the right direction as to where I might look for resources prior to publishing, please? I'm acutely aware that SEO has moved on considerably since I last published a site, but Nicepage is new to me as well and trying to get my head around everything is hard work for a Catering Engineer! If anyone could possibly offer any tips or maybe recommend a few "Don't do this / Definately do that" nuggets of advice, I'd be very grateful. Hope everything is good wherever you all are in the world :-) Cheers, and stay safe. Andy
Ch3vr0n
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Ch3vr0n posted this 02 May 2020

That depends are you using a CMS? Because for platforms such as Joomla or Wordpress, extensions exists that help you fill in the "required" seo data to be "up to date"

That depends are you using a CMS? Because for platforms such as Joomla or Wordpress, extensions exists that help you fill in the "required" seo data to be "up to date"
rcmcatering2
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rcmcatering2 posted this 02 May 2020

Hi again Ch3vr0n

I've had a cursory look around at CMS, but I've concentrated more on getting the site looking as I want it, with good content etc, so not done much more than that tbh.

I was intending publishing it using FTP rather than with WP or Joomla etc, but if it's better to go that way I'm prepared to invest time and money as I want it to be a success.

Hope that makes sense?

Andy

Hi again Ch3vr0n I've had a cursory look around at CMS, but I've concentrated more on getting the site looking as I want it, with good content etc, so not done much more than that tbh. I was intending publishing it using FTP rather than with WP or Joomla etc, but if it's better to go that way I'm prepared to invest time and money as I want it to be a success. Hope that makes sense? Andy
Ch3vr0n
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Ch3vr0n posted this 03 May 2020

FTP is a literally stands for File Transfer Protocol. That's all it is, file for a CMS can be managed with FTP just the same (in fact i don't do anything else). You may be confusing things with static pages like HTML

Think of a CMS as the exterior and roofing of a small house. When the shell is built, you'll obviously want an interior as well. That's what nicepage does, nicepage is an interior designer. It let's you design content (ake furniture) for that small house, making it habitable and defining how it looks. More CMS functionality (such as an SEO) , you can consider as "adding on an extra room". The more extensions you add to your CMS, the bigger your house gets :)

FTP is a literally stands for File Transfer Protocol. That's all it is, file for a CMS can be managed with FTP just the same (in fact i don't do anything else). You may be confusing things with static pages like HTML Think of a CMS as the exterior and roofing of a small house. When the shell is built, you'll obviously want an interior as well. That's what nicepage does, nicepage is an interior designer. It let's you design content (ake furniture) for that small house, making it habitable and defining how it looks. More CMS functionality (such as an SEO) , you can consider as "adding on an extra room". The more extensions you add to your CMS, the bigger your house gets :)
rcmcatering2
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rcmcatering2 posted this 03 May 2020

Thanks for the notes viz CMS.

The house analogy worked a treat in my lock down-addled brain. Definitely got a bit more clarity now, so it was much appreciated :-)

Having pretty much finished the design part, it looks like I'll now be entering into a whole new world, which is a bit daunting!

I'm guessing Ill need to publish it with WP, then setup SEO, security and updates etc via that. Being realistic, is this something that the average Joe can sort out, or am I better off hiring someone to do it for me? (the latter would defeat the whole reason I decided to DIY the website in the first place, which would be hugely disappointing, but I do need to be a realist here)

Cheers

Thanks for the notes viz CMS. The house analogy worked a treat in my lock down-addled brain. Definitely got a bit more clarity now, so it was much appreciated :-) Having pretty much finished the design part, it looks like I'll now be entering into a whole new world, which is a bit daunting! I'm guessing Ill need to publish it with WP, then setup SEO, security and updates etc via that. Being realistic, is this something that the average Joe can sort out, or am I better off hiring someone to do it for me? (the latter would defeat the whole reason I decided to DIY the website in the first place, which would be hugely disappointing, but I do need to be a realist here) Cheers
Ch3vr0n
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Ch3vr0n posted this 03 May 2020

I'm not familiar with wordpress itself, i'm more of a joomla guy (Wordpress' biggest alternative) I find WP more tailored towards blog type websites. Joomla itself i find is a more universal and a lot more dynamic platform. I've so far built finished 4 of them. Working on 2 more and 1 on the planner

Installation itself is technically pretty easy.

  • you download the CMS installation package zip file and upload it to your hosting account
  • extract archive through your hosting control panel or through your FTP client
  • create a database (because the CMS files only determine how to "build" the house, the actual materials (your images text, aka the bricks and woodwork) are stored in the database)
  • take note of the database info (hostname/username/password)
  • lauch the installation wizard and follow the steps

For me, knowing what i need to do to install wordpress (and even only having done it a handful of times). I can get the basic version installed and configured in under 10 minutes.

I'm not familiar with wordpress itself, i'm more of a joomla guy (Wordpress' biggest alternative) I find WP more tailored towards blog type websites. Joomla itself i find is a more universal and a lot more dynamic platform. I've so far built finished 4 of them. Working on 2 more and 1 on the planner Installation itself is technically pretty easy. - you download the CMS installation package zip file and upload it to your hosting account - extract archive through your hosting control panel or through your FTP client - create a database (because the CMS files only determine how to "build" the house, the actual materials (your images text, aka the bricks and woodwork) are stored in the database) - take note of the database info (hostname/username/password) - lauch the installation wizard and follow the steps For me, knowing what i need to do to install wordpress (and even only having done it a handful of times). I can get the basic version installed and configured in under 10 minutes.
rcmcatering2
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rcmcatering2 posted this 04 May 2020

Really appreciate you explaining that Ch3vr0n - thank you :-)

If I press ahead without a CMS - this site is for my business, which is quite niche and therefore doesn't have huge competition (I still want the site to do the job it's there for though, naturally) unlike a online shop for example, an obvious problem I've got in my head right now is that If I come up with the meta tags that I want to use that are pertinent to my site, do I also need to include the code for nicepage to do the rest, or just type them in to the site settings / HTML / meta tags section, separated with commas?

Sorry if its a relatively stupid question for someone with a lot of knowledge - I'm dabbling in something that really interests and fascinates me, but frustrates me in equal measure - LOL!!

As always, any help or advice appreciated :-)
Cheers

Andy

Really appreciate you explaining that Ch3vr0n - thank you :-) If I press ahead without a CMS - this site is for my business, which is quite niche and therefore doesn't have huge competition (I still want the site to do the job it's there for though, naturally) unlike a online shop for example, an obvious problem I've got in my head right now is that If I come up with the meta tags that I want to use that are pertinent to my site, do I also need to include the code for nicepage to do the rest, or just type them in to the site settings / HTML / meta tags section, separated with commas? Sorry if its a relatively stupid question for someone with a lot of knowledge - I'm dabbling in something that really interests and fascinates me, but frustrates me in equal measure - LOL!! As always, any help or advice appreciated :-) Cheers Andy
Ch3vr0n
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Ch3vr0n posted this 05 May 2020

the main site keywords (optional) and description i'm guessing you add under the SEO tab not HTML. No clue what the options under the HTML tab are for. Can't help you with that, sorry. but it looks to me like whatever you add there gets added to ALL the pages. If you add a specific meta description there which applies for 1 page, i'm assuming it would be "added" to other pages where it doesn't apply. That's actually damaging for SEO.

Note i'm ASSUMING that's what it is/does on the HTML tab. I don't use it. I only build sites with a CMS and manage SEO with an extension. That way i can apply the proper meta snippet, tags, keywords, description, and all other relevant SEO functionality on a page-by-page basis, thus optimizing SEO for THAT specific page, and end result the entire site.

Someone from Nicepage themselves will have to explain what the 2 options under the HTML tab are for.

the main site keywords (optional) and description i'm guessing you add under the SEO tab not HTML. No clue what the options under the HTML tab are for. Can't help you with that, sorry. but it looks to me like whatever you add there gets added to ALL the pages. If you add a specific meta description there which applies for 1 page, i'm assuming it would be "added" to other pages where it doesn't apply. That's actually damaging for SEO. Note i'm ASSUMING that's what it is/does on the HTML tab. I don't use it. I only build sites with a CMS and manage SEO with an extension. That way i can apply the proper meta snippet, tags, keywords, description, and all other relevant SEO functionality on a page-by-page basis, thus optimizing SEO for THAT specific page, and end result the entire site. Someone from Nicepage themselves will have to explain what the 2 options under the HTML tab are for.
naomi.eghaghe
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naomi.eghaghe posted this 05 August 2020

I'm not familiar with wordpress itself, i'm more of a joomla guy (Wordpress' biggest alternative) I find WP more tailored towards blog type websites. Joomla itself i find is a more universal and a lot more dynamic platform. I've so far built finished 4 of them. Working on 2 more and 1 on the planner

Installation itself is technically pretty easy.

  • you download the CMS installation package zip file and upload it to your hosting account
  • extract archive through your hosting control panel or through your FTP client
  • create a database (because the CMS files only determine how to "build" the house, the actual materials (your images text, aka the bricks and woodwork) are stored in the database)
  • take note of the database info (hostname/username/password)
  • lauch the installation wizard and follow the steps

For me, knowing what i need to do to install wordpress (and even only having done it a handful of times). I can get the basic version installed and configured in under 10 minutes.

Hi, i'm new to joomla. Can you maybe recommend a SEO extension for Joomla?
Thanks in advance :)

> I'm not familiar with wordpress itself, i'm more of a joomla guy (Wordpress' biggest alternative) I find WP more tailored towards blog type websites. Joomla itself i find is a more universal and a lot more dynamic platform. I've so far built finished 4 of them. Working on 2 more and 1 on the planner > > Installation itself is technically pretty easy. > > - you download the CMS installation package zip file and upload it to your hosting account > - extract archive through your hosting control panel or through your FTP client > - create a database (because the CMS files only determine how to "build" the house, the actual materials (your images text, aka the bricks and woodwork) are stored in the database) > - take note of the database info (hostname/username/password) > - lauch the installation wizard and follow the steps > > For me, knowing what i need to do to install wordpress (and even only having done it a handful of times). I can get the basic version installed and configured in under 10 minutes. Hi, i'm new to joomla. Can you maybe recommend a SEO extension for Joomla? Thanks in advance :)
Ch3vr0n
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Ch3vr0n posted this 05 August 2020

PWT-SEO by PerfectWebTeam. It's the very one i use and support is exellent.

PWT-SEO by PerfectWebTeam. It's the very one i use and support is exellent.
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