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charles
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charles posted this 20 April 2020
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I have never understood why Nicepage makes two homepages for my html websites. Please tell me why because search engines typically see duplicate content as a negative, causing the site to rank lower in search results, and also search engines can get confused while scanning the site.

I have never understood why Nicepage makes two homepages for my html websites. Please tell me why because search engines typically see duplicate content as a negative, causing the site to rank lower in search results, and also search engines can get confused while scanning the site.
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CSE Webdesign
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CSE Webdesign posted this 15 April 2024

Frustrating and time consuming...... :-(

Frustrating and time consuming...... :-(
charles
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charles posted this 23 March 2024

I agree with you Web-Emotion, they should correct it. I don't think they will however. I don't think they know how. Surely they would if they could.

I agree with you Web-Emotion, they should correct it. I don't think they will however. I don't think they know how. Surely they would if they could.
Web-Emotion
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Web-Emotion posted this 23 March 2024

Ja bitte um sofortige Korrektur.

Ja bitte um sofortige Korrektur.

Last edited 23 March 2024 by Web-Emotion

charles
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charles posted this 30 December 2023

Thanks, however I use notepad to recode the necessary components before I upload the site to the server. I have been writing code since HTML 3. I agree Nicepage is a great software tool. I just do not understand why they do not fix this one thing with the two home pages.

Thanks, however I use notepad to recode the necessary components before I upload the site to the server. I have been writing code since HTML 3. I agree Nicepage is a great software tool. I just do not understand why they do not fix this one thing with the two home pages.
njardim
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njardim posted this 27 December 2023

Ok, I see what you mean, I believe developers will solve this problem. I'm kind of an advanced user and I really like to use Nicepage. I think it's a very cool and promising tool to build websites. It goes straight to the point without the need of additional plugins. So I like it for that.

Regarding the duplicates problem, I'm including a mega link to an index.html file that the only thing it does it's to redirect a user to /Home.html in any website. The only thing you need to do is to download and transfer the file to your Nicepage website and replace the current index.html file with this one.

This will eliminate the duplicates problem and redirect the users to /Home.html.

Here's the download link:
index.html

And just in case, I'm also attaching the code for the index.html file if you want to write the file yourself.

I hope this helps.

Ok, I see what you mean, I believe developers will solve this problem. I'm kind of an advanced user and I really like to use Nicepage. I think it's a very cool and promising tool to build websites. It goes straight to the point without the need of additional plugins. So I like it for that. Regarding the duplicates problem, I'm including a mega link to an index.html file that the only thing it does it's to redirect a user to /Home.html in any website. The only thing you need to do is to download and transfer the file to your Nicepage website and replace the current index.html file with this one. This will eliminate the duplicates problem and redirect the users to /Home.html. Here's the download link: [index.html][1] And just in case, I'm also attaching the code for the index.html file if you want to write the file yourself. I hope this helps. [1]: https://mega.nz/file/bV5GRB7I#GDD2Jjt6MJMqZMaqeve8bS94t6TQ7cMMDu7RTRxJDXc
charles
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charles posted this 27 December 2023

njardim thanks, but why does Nicepage make an extra Home Page called Home Page when correct html construction only uses index.html? You see this software is mainly used by users who do not have a lot of experience constructing webpages. I believe most users would not know how to do what you advise.

njardim thanks, but why does Nicepage make an extra Home Page called Home Page when correct html construction only uses index.html? You see this software is mainly used by users who do not have a lot of experience constructing webpages. I believe most users would not know how to do what you advise.
njardim
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njardim posted this 26 December 2023

Why don't you create an index.html file with just the following redirect code:

<head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=/Home.html" />
</head>

This way there's no duplicate content.

Why don't you create an index.html file with just the following redirect code: <head> <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=/Home.html" /> </head> This way there's no duplicate content.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 30 October 2023

Hello,

We are really sorry to hear about the frustration you've experienced. It's important for any service to address user concerns promptly and effectively, and we understand your frustration with encountering issues like page duplication.

We've forwarded your message to our management.

Thank you
...................................................
Sincerely,
Ahmad.
Nicepage Support Team

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Hello, We are really sorry to hear about the frustration you've experienced. It's important for any service to address user concerns promptly and effectively, and we understand your frustration with encountering issues like page duplication. We've forwarded your message to our management. Thank you ................................................... Sincerely, Ahmad. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
charles
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charles posted this 28 October 2023

I agree with you 100%. It does have some good points and is easy to use, however customer service sucks. I have to use notepad and edit the html physically to get rid of the extra page.

I agree with you 100%. It does have some good points and is easy to use, however customer service sucks. I have to use notepad and edit the html physically to get rid of the extra page.
marcossastre73
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marcossastre73 posted this 28 October 2023

I'm glad I've found this issue during the trial period!
I'm not willing to pay for a service that can't get it right with something as basic as NOT DUPLICATING PAGES.

You have lost a potential paid user because of this annoying BS (not that I think you would care, considering you current paid users have been asking you to change this since 2020 and you keep ignoring them...)

I'm glad I've found this issue during the trial period! I'm not willing to pay for a service that can't get it right with something as basic as NOT DUPLICATING PAGES. You have lost a potential paid user because of this annoying BS (not that I think you would care, considering you current paid users have been asking you to change this since 2020 and you keep ignoring them...)
igor.kulundzic
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igor.kulundzic posted this 24 October 2023

Dear Nicepage support,

would you at least unlock the option to rename our Homepage as Index...that will solve this perennial agony?

Thanks!

Dear Nicepage support, would you at least unlock the option to rename our Homepage as Index...that will solve this perennial agony? Thanks!
klaus28
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klaus28 posted this 07 September 2023

Is this still not solved?
I struggle with the manual tasks after exporting (deleting, renaming); having 2 files with same content is punished by search engines for publishing duplicates.
I want to have the one and only file "index.html", no copies or weird names like home.html.

It's not possible, to rename "home" to "index" in the UI (Error: Reserved page name is used)

Nicepage version 5.17.1

=> There seems no understanding of the issue on the developer side for years now, what about an alternative?
- create a settings item for users, who know, what they do:

  [x] generate a single index.html on export for the "home page"
Is this still not solved? I struggle with the manual tasks after exporting (deleting, renaming); having 2 files with same content is punished by search engines for publishing duplicates. I want to have the one and only file "index.html", no copies or weird names like home.html. It's not possible, to rename "home" to "index" in the UI (Error: Reserved page name is used) Nicepage version 5.17.1 => There seems no understanding of the issue on the developer side for years now, what about an alternative? - create a settings item for users, who know, what they do: [x] generate a single index.html on export for the "home page"
charles
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charles posted this 24 July 2023

This topic was first raised by me in April of 2020 over three years ago. I began designing webpages with HTML 1.0 and then only text could be displayed on a webpage. This was a very simple way of displaying a page. Back then we only had a note pad as software to write code. I do not believe at this point anyone is listening to users of Nicepage software. However, if they would click on the link below, I think it would help them understand how a web server works. I think the Nicepage software is great if they fix design flaws they have. I have enough experience to fix them after downloading the files, however most users I believe cannot and rely completely on the software.

Understanding the Index.html Page on a Website
By Jennifer Kyrnin

Updated on November 20, 2020
Reviewed by Ryan Perian
https://www.thoughtco.com/index-html-page-3466505

Quotes from the link above:
"One of the very first things you learn as you begin dipping your toes into the waters of website design is how to save your documents as web pages. Many tutorials and articles about getting started with web design will instruct you to save your initial HTML document with the file name index.html. "

"Default Homepage
The index.html page is the most common name used for the default page shown on a website if no other page is specified when a visitor requests the site. In other words, index.html is the name used for the homepage of the website."

"Sites That Do Not Use .HTML Files
Some websites, like those that are powered by a content management system or ones that use more robust programming languages like PHP or ASP, may not use .html pages in their structure. For these sites, you still want to ensure that a default page is specified, and for select directories in that site, having an index.html (or index.php, index.asp, etc.) page is still desirable for the reasons described above."

This topic was first raised by me in April of 2020 over three years ago. I began designing webpages with HTML 1.0 and then only text could be displayed on a webpage. This was a very simple way of displaying a page. Back then we only had a note pad as software to write code. I do not believe at this point anyone is listening to users of Nicepage software. However, if they would click on the link below, I think it would help them understand how a web server works. I think the Nicepage software is great if they fix design flaws they have. I have enough experience to fix them after downloading the files, however most users I believe cannot and rely completely on the software. Understanding the Index.html Page on a Website By Jennifer Kyrnin Updated on November 20, 2020 Reviewed by Ryan Perian https://www.thoughtco.com/index-html-page-3466505 Quotes from the link above: "One of the very first things you learn as you begin dipping your toes into the waters of website design is how to save your documents as web pages. Many tutorials and articles about getting started with web design will instruct you to save your initial HTML document with the file name index.html. " "Default Homepage The index.html page is the most common name used for the default page shown on a website if no other page is specified when a visitor requests the site. In other words, index.html is the name used for the homepage of the website." "Sites That Do Not Use .HTML Files Some websites, like those that are powered by a content management system or ones that use more robust programming languages like PHP or ASP, may not use .html pages in their structure. For these sites, you still want to ensure that a default page is specified, and for select directories in that site, having an index.html (or index.php, index.asp, etc.) page is still desirable for the reasons described above."
nickb
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nickb posted this 24 July 2023

I'm adding my voice to this issue/thread too as I've just come across it as well and you are seriously annoying me with this, it is deeply frustrating, I know my opening page should be index.htm(l) I don't need to you wipe my bottom for me!

For goodness sake Nicepage, listen to your users!

The vast majority of which (certainly in this thread) I would speculate know the difference between home.html and index.html and probably always start building their sites by naming the initial design page as index.html (I do) because every other page hangs from that page.

As others have said, there is absolutely no need for you to lock the initial page as home.html and then generate an index.html when the site is exported as an html site, this is very bad practice.

If you want to set a default from within NP, make it index.html and NOT home.html and don't allow ANY other page(s) to given "home page" status, why would anyone set contact-us as a home page (for example).

Nick

I'm adding my voice to this issue/thread too as I've just come across it as well and you are seriously annoying me with this, it is deeply frustrating, I **know** my opening page should be **index.htm(l)** I don't need to you wipe my bottom for me! For goodness sake Nicepage, listen to your **users!** The vast majority of which (certainly in this thread) I would speculate **know** the difference between home.html and index.html and probably always start building their sites by naming the initial design page as **index.html** (I do) because every other page hangs from that page. As others have said, there is absolutely **no need** for you to lock the initial page as home.html and then generate an index.html when the site is exported as an html site, this is very bad practice. If you want to set a default from within NP, make it **index.html** and **NOT** home.html and don't allow **ANY** other page(s) to given "home page" status, why would anyone set contact-us as a home page (for example). Nick

Last edited 24 July 2023 by nickb

Support Team
Support Team posted this 06 June 2023

Igor,

We support our customers, we are very sorry for all the delays!

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igor.kulundzic
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igor.kulundzic posted this 06 June 2023

Duplicate content is content that appears more than once with a unique website address (URL) - so, if the same content exists at more than one web address, you’ve got duplicate content.

It is not a penalty; however, it can still sometimes influence search engine rankings. Google calls it, "appreciably similar" and it can be difficult to choose which version is more relevant to a given search query.

When "appreciably similar" content is present, site owners can suffer rankings and traffic losses.

Search engines will seldom show on purpose several editions of the same subject matter, and thus are made to choose which edition is most likely to be the best result. This weakens the visibility of each of the duplicates.

Link equity can be further reduced because other sites must choose between the duplicates as well.

You will not get a straight answer from nicepage.com.
I got one from:

frankieboy posted this 20 April 2020
He said:

Name the homepage (first site) "index" and give it a "label" (HOME or START). Then you only have the index.html when exporting as HTML.

charles posted this 20 April 2020
Thanks that worked!

The reason this is necessary is if you type in an URL such as https://www.charlesholcomb.com, you have not presented any page the server should deliver to the client (computer or mobile phone). In many cases, what you will see then is the default page, or index.html page.

If you know the exact address of the page you want to view, such as https://www.charlesholcomb.com/About-Us.html, then the server will direct you to that page instead of the index.html page.

index.html is easily recognized on most servers as the default page, which is why many web developers choose to go with index.html as the default page name.

Unfortunately, now it's not even possible to rename your Home page to "index"...it's not allowed. I'm not sure why this "support" even exist if they don't support us....for our money!?

> Duplicate content is content that appears more than once with a unique website address (URL) - so, if the same content exists at more than one web address, you’ve got duplicate content. > > It is not a penalty; however, it can still sometimes influence search engine rankings. Google calls it, "appreciably similar" and it can be difficult to choose which version is more relevant to a given search query. > > When "appreciably similar" content is present, site owners can suffer rankings and traffic losses. > > Search engines will seldom show on purpose several editions of the same subject matter, and thus are made to choose which edition is most likely to be the best result. This weakens the visibility of each of the duplicates. > > Link equity can be further reduced because other sites must choose between the duplicates as well. > > You will not get a straight answer from nicepage.com. > I got one from: > > frankieboy posted this 20 April 2020 > He said: > > **Name the homepage (first site) "index" and give it a "label" (HOME or START). Then you only have the index.html when exporting as HTML.** > > charles posted this 20 April 2020 > Thanks that worked! > > The reason this is necessary is if you type in an URL such as https://www.charlesholcomb.com, you have not presented any page the server should deliver to the client (computer or mobile phone). In many cases, what you will see then is the default page, or index.html page. > > If you know the exact address of the page you want to view, such as https://www.charlesholcomb.com/About-Us.html, then the server will direct you to that page instead of the index.html page. > > index.html is easily recognized on most servers as the default page, which is why many web developers choose to go with index.html as the default page name. Unfortunately, now it's not even possible to rename your Home page to "index"...it's not allowed. I'm not sure why this "support" even exist if they don't support us....for our money!?
tech228
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tech228 posted this 11 May 2023

This is quite ridiculous. Such fine software with this issue I've never had with any software all these years. It's hurting me, and hurting all others that purchase NicePage.

Many comments seem rude, but they are actually correct and frustrated.

Please, please correct asap...

This is quite ridiculous. Such fine software with this issue I've never had with any software all these years. It's hurting me, and hurting all others that purchase NicePage. Many comments seem rude, but they are actually correct and frustrated. Please, please correct asap...
charles
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charles posted this 03 March 2023

I wonder how long it will take to get this corrected. It could be never. It has been never so far. They just came out with a new update and I didn’t see it included. It has been my experience that some companies just keep doing the same things so as not to admit a mistake and just keep giving redundant explanations.

I wonder how long it will take to get this corrected. It could be never. It has been never so far. They just came out with a new update and I didn’t see it included. It has been my experience that some companies just keep doing the same things so as not to admit a mistake and just keep giving redundant explanations.
Ch3vr0n
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Ch3vr0n posted this 02 March 2023

index.htm(l) or .php even takes priority over home.htm(l). Home should be dropped entirely in every capacity. If the default start page menu item is called "Home" or "Start" > name the default page home.htm(l). If it's "Index" name the default page "index.htm(l)" but not both. That's just bad practice.

index.htm(l) or .php even takes priority over home.htm(l). Home should be dropped entirely in every capacity. If the default start page menu item is called "Home" or "Start" > name the default page home.htm(l). If it's "Index" name the default page "index.htm(l)" but not both. That's just bad practice.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 01 March 2023

Hello Charles and Wim

We appreciate your insightful feedback and we will ensure to pass on your ideas to our management team.
...................................................
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Ahmad.
Nicepage Support Team

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