Is there a simple way to reduce CSS files to increase speed of site loading M

Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 25 June 2022
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I've checked my site several times and everything is pointing to too many CSS files. I understand nicepage is suppose to automatically reduce CSS files to increase site loading but clearly this isn't the case. And tips to improve loading of page.

Many thanks

I've checked my site several times and everything is pointing to too many CSS files. I understand nicepage is suppose to automatically reduce CSS files to increase site loading but clearly this isn't the case. And tips to improve loading of page. Many thanks
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Support Team
Support Team posted this 25 June 2022

Hi, James,

Nicepage generates the CSS file automatically. Usually, the CSS file is huge because we want our pages and themes to be customizable as much as it is possible. The more styles pages have, the more details can be customized.
If the size of this file disturbs you, you can try to optimize it, however, we do not recommend doing it as it can affect the work of the website.

Please let us know if you need our further help!
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Sincerely,
Paul C.
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Hi, James, Nicepage generates the CSS file automatically. Usually, the CSS file is huge because we want our pages and themes to be customizable as much as it is possible. The more styles pages have, the more details can be customized. If the size of this file disturbs you, you can try to optimize it, however, we do not recommend doing it as it can affect the work of the website. Please let us know if you need our further help! ................................................... Sincerely, Paul C. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 27 June 2022

So there is nothing that can be done. All SEO and Google tools point at there being too many CSS files. So clearly it's an issue.

So there is nothing that can be done. All SEO and Google tools point at there being too many CSS files. So clearly it's an issue.
Support Team
Support Team posted this 27 June 2022

Hi, James,

As I wrote above, you can try to optimize CSS files. For example, there are online CSS optimizers or CMS plugins that optimize CSS codes. You can try to use them on your own and tell us if it suits your needs or not.
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Paul C.
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Hi, James, As I wrote above, you can try to optimize CSS files. For example, there are online CSS optimizers or CMS plugins that optimize CSS codes. You can try to use them on your own and tell us if it suits your needs or not. ................................................... Sincerely, Paul C. Nicepage Support Team Please subscribe to our YouTube channel: http://youtube.com/nicepage?sub_confirmation=1 Follow us on Facebook: http://facebook.com/nicepageapp
El Shay
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El Shay posted this 27 June 2022

Hi James

I've been doing SEO with NP from when NP was Artisteer and pretty much all my NP websites are 90%+ in the Google Page Speed Insights, and score particularly well with the Core Web Vitals.

You will find that the problem is usually NOT the JS and CSS files. My tip to you would be

  1. Do NOT defer the JS and CSS (that seems to be a default now in NP) you actually want these critical files to load in parallel even though they will block the render
  2. Use Chrome or better yet WebPageTest to see what images are part of your LCP and make sure to PRELOAD them (make sure lazyload is enables and make sure you use webp)
  3. I avoid GG Fonts like the plague..if you have to use them embed them then follow the FOIT instructions PSI gives you
  4. If you (like me) are showing your web in MANY diff geographic regions then you MUST use a CDN. And you need to configure your CDN so that the NP JS and CSS are in the CDN cache as long as possible.

    1. Use webpagetest to see how long your DNS is taking to resolve, it should be 0.5s but i have many customers who use DNS that take up to 1s to resolve.

In conclusion, I spend my days migrating webs from wordpress and many other systems with literally 20-30 different js and css....and I am delighted that my 4 NP files carry all the intelligence to everything those 20-30 files do.

I'm sure Nicepage will get around to improving the CSS and JS files. For example i hate seeing froala.com/wysiwyg-editor css in my nicepage css when i don't even use it.

Anyway, in conclusion, GG PSI as a tool must complain about sth and yes he will always complain about the NP css and JS...but you can still get 90%+ and GREEN Core Web Vitals if you know what you are doing.

Best of luck !! and keep the NP faith !!!

Shay

Hi James I've been doing SEO with NP from when NP was Artisteer and pretty much all my NP websites are 90%+ in the Google Page Speed Insights, and score particularly well with the Core Web Vitals. You will find that the problem is usually NOT the JS and CSS files. My tip to you would be 1. Do NOT defer the JS and CSS (that seems to be a default now in NP) you actually want these critical files to load in parallel even though they will block the render 2. Use Chrome or better yet WebPageTest to see what images are part of your LCP and make sure to PRELOAD them (make sure lazyload is enables and make sure you use webp) 3. I avoid GG Fonts like the plague..if you have to use them embed them then follow the FOIT instructions PSI gives you 4. If you (like me) are showing your web in MANY diff geographic regions then you MUST use a CDN. And you need to configure your CDN so that the NP JS and CSS are in the CDN cache as long as possible. 5. Use webpagetest to see how long your DNS is taking to resolve, it should be 0.5s but i have many customers who use DNS that take up to 1s to resolve. In conclusion, I spend my days migrating webs from wordpress and many other systems with literally 20-30 different js and css....and I am delighted that my 4 NP files carry all the intelligence to everything those 20-30 files do. I'm sure Nicepage will get around to improving the CSS and JS files. For example i hate seeing froala.com/wysiwyg-editor css in my nicepage css when i don't even use it. Anyway, in conclusion, GG PSI as a tool must complain about sth and yes he will always complain about the NP css and JS...but you can still get 90%+ and GREEN Core Web Vitals if you know what you are doing. Best of luck !! and keep the NP faith !!! Shay

Last edited 27 June 2022 by El Shay

Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 27 June 2022

El Shay. Fantastic response thank you. I will look it all up asap. I seem to have constant issues with Google not allowing my site to be used for Google ads I've been suspended and I cannot for the life of me find out why ! Complete novice here trying my hardest to start a business with very little finds and clearly skills. Thank you again for response

El Shay. Fantastic response thank you. I will look it all up asap. I seem to have constant issues with Google not allowing my site to be used for Google ads I've been suspended and I cannot for the life of me find out why ! Complete novice here trying my hardest to start a business with very little finds and clearly skills. Thank you again for response
El Shay
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El Shay posted this 27 June 2022

Hi James

my pleasure...yep I work in tandem with a lot of Ads agencies (SEM) and the SEM world has gotten more complicated too

Good SEO scores (especially CWV - ie: Page Experience) will reduce your Ad spend as the cost per click reduces if the end-user has had a positive experience..

BUT, if GG is suspending you it's not for bad SEO scores. In my experience, it's usually because the Customer or the Ad agency has gotten a bit too "creative" adding extra plugins and worst of all iframes.

If Google gets a sniff that you have "iframed" in some (what you or the customer thought was) cool code (for a visual effect, or a contact form, or sth that goes whiz-bang wallop), but with a less than trusted website behind it, then you will be suspended. And you need to take it VERY seriously because if GG suspends you more than once they start to get "deaf ears" to your calls for help.

So, in summary, a bad SEO score won't get you suspended.... BUT if you have some dodgy IFRAMES or plugins from dodgy websites, you need to remove them ASAP.

Hope that helps

Shay

Hi James my pleasure...yep I work in tandem with a lot of Ads agencies (SEM) and the SEM world has gotten more complicated too Good SEO scores (especially CWV - ie: Page Experience) will reduce your Ad spend as the cost per click reduces if the end-user has had a positive experience.. BUT, if GG is suspending you it's not for bad SEO scores. In my experience, it's usually because the Customer or the Ad agency has gotten a bit too "creative" adding extra plugins and worst of all iframes. If Google gets a sniff that you have "iframed" in some (what you or the customer thought was) cool code (for a visual effect, or a contact form, or sth that goes whiz-bang wallop), but with a less than trusted website behind it, then you will be suspended. And you need to take it VERY seriously because if GG suspends you more than once they start to get "deaf ears" to your calls for help. So, in summary, a bad SEO score won't get you suspended.... BUT if you have some dodgy IFRAMES or plugins from dodgy websites, you need to remove them ASAP. Hope that helps Shay
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 27 June 2022

I haven't put anything in other than what I cam use with NP. I'm a complete novice. So I used NP great drop and drag to create my pages. Yet I still have a suspension. . That's my site. I genuinly cannot see the issue because I'm a novice and Google will not specify what the issue is bit rather give me a general description which can involve 20 different things! Again thank you for your response will be really helpful.

I haven't put anything in other than what I cam use with NP. I'm a complete novice. So I used NP great drop and drag to create my pages. Yet I still have a suspension. Https://www.regenerate3d.co.uk/. That's my site. I genuinly cannot see the issue because I'm a novice and Google will not specify what the issue is bit rather give me a general description which can involve 20 different things! Again thank you for your response will be really helpful.
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 27 June 2022

Oh ok nicepage has removed my web address I didn't realise I couldn't post for reference

Oh ok nicepage has removed my web address I didn't realise I couldn't post for reference
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 27 June 2022

El Shay can I attach my project file for you to look at as I'm genuinly stumped here!

El Shay can I attach my project file for you to look at as I'm genuinly stumped here!
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 27 June 2022

I could really do with some help here if anyone can see why my site is annoying Google Ads please byt all means give me a shout.

See attached file

Many Thanks

I could really do with some help here if anyone can see why my site is annoying Google Ads please byt all means give me a shout. See attached file Many Thanks
El Shay
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El Shay posted this 27 June 2022

Hi James,

give me the URL of your website or attach a picture and I will take a look

Shay

Hi James, give me the URL of your website or attach a picture and I will take a look Shay
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 28 June 2022

www.regenerate3d.co.uk. hopfully you can see that.

www.regenerate3d.co.uk. hopfully you can see that.
El Shay
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El Shay posted this 28 June 2022

Hi James

I would avoid the -------------- you have in your code... especially writing out your GA tags...

One thing is to -------------- some text (hello world), but to -------------- links to other websites (even if it is GG) is very similar to the IFRAME situation i mentioned before... looks really suspicious...

Best regards

Shay

Hi James I would avoid the -------------- you have in your code... especially writing out your GA tags... One thing is to -------------- some text (hello world), but to -------------- links to other websites (even if it is GG) is very similar to the IFRAME situation i mentioned before... looks really suspicious... Best regards Shay
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 28 June 2022

What looks suspicious ? Many thanks.

What looks suspicious ? Many thanks.
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 28 June 2022

Honestly i have no idea what iframes are. What links to others sites are you refereeing to? the only links i have added to other sites are like to local community that I know personally. Really appreciate your help El Shay.

Honestly i have no idea what iframes are. What links to others sites are you refereeing to? the only links i have added to other sites are like to local community that I know personally. Really appreciate your help El Shay.
El Shay
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El Shay posted this 29 June 2022

Hi James

this is your web page source (see image).

The "--------------" is a technique often used by spam webs to link in content from spam webs to a normal web.

you need to remove it.

S

Hi James this is your web page source (see image). The "--------------" is a technique often used by spam webs to link in content from spam webs to a normal web. you need to remove it. S
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 29 June 2022

Thank you again El Shay. I have nothing to do with that. I believe that was automatically generated by Nicepage. I think it's related to cookies and GDPR. I shall remove it. Thank you.

Thank you again El Shay. I have nothing to do with that. I believe that was automatically generated by Nicepage. I think it's related to cookies and GDPR. I shall remove it. Thank you.
Regenerate3d
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Regenerate3d posted this 29 June 2022

That's it deleted and updated. I think I selected cookies and GDPR pop in nicepage the begin with but it caused all sorts of errors and issues so removed it so the -------------- must have been a remnant left over. Hope are still investigating my latest appeal so fingers crossed that does the trick. Mind you come to think of it Google never had an issue with my site u til I added the gdpr popup! Maybe that the trigger because of the -------------- code!

That's it deleted and updated. I think I selected cookies and GDPR pop in nicepage the begin with but it caused all sorts of errors and issues so removed it so the -------------- must have been a remnant left over. Hope are still investigating my latest appeal so fingers crossed that does the trick. Mind you come to think of it Google never had an issue with my site u til I added the gdpr popup! Maybe that the trigger because of the -------------- code!
El Shay
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El Shay posted this 30 June 2022

No problemo !!

s-)

No problemo !! s-)
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